Anti-Speed Run Mechanism

[Ariyn]

Congrats to all the "haha exploiters got played" peeps. You guys won this round apparently. Now I'll come back in a week and see the "Omg it takes so long to get gear to do Titan HM" threads. As others posted 60 hours of your life are now going to be wasted running the same boring dungeon over and over before you can even attempt to get into the "raid". Quotes because I don't consider an 8 man a raid at all.

This was a completely dumb move on SE's part and for the people that like it, enjoy it you will be in this dungeon for a long long time and the parties will get much worse. I know for sure if i am pugging it I will be gear checking before I make the first pull. No Ifrit/Garuda wep on the dps and I'm out. Not worth wasting my time killing trash for an almost certain wipe on demon wall if not the first boss. Get ready for more massive "QQ I can't complete the dungeon" threads.

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Congrats to all the "haha exploiters got played" peeps. snip.

Don't pug it then, I wont be. If you are so pro and going to be raiding you must have an all pro FC to run these with. Should go pretty fast with everyone in all Garuda HM weapons. I am sure everyone will be ok if you do not grace the DF with your presence.

[xRitzx]

Don't pug it then, I wont be. If you are so pro and going to be raiding you must have an all pro FC to run these with. Should go pretty fast with everyone in all Garuda HM weapons. I am sure everyone will be ok if you do not grace the DF with your presence.

You so don't get the point. SE requires us to spend more time doing the mindless task of killing trash.

I'm not elite. My highest character is level 34. But I would like to play the dungeon the way I want as long as it doesn't bother other people. I try to maximize threat as tank and DPS as DPS. I am in a FC of about 40 on a new server and about 4 members are already 50. I would like to think I'm a skilled player once I learn the mechanics but I'm certainly not the elitist type and neither is my FC. This is a time problem. I don't know 50 tier gear that well but it looks like we'll be spending 60 hours a set for mid-tier 50 gear. AF2 is way better gear to spend time on. With this mechanism, I might even try to beat the quests after AK undergeared instead of gearing properly because there is a better time vs. reward tradeoff.

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You so don't get the point. SE requires us to spend more time doing the mindless task of killing trash.

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I so do get the point. At the rate people were getting tomes before this even casuals would have been to end game in a month or 2 lol. Then what? I can run castrum in about 40 minutes and get 100 tokens with my FC and all of us in vendor white gear and a few crafting pieces of jewelry for materia farm. This is by far the best way to farm tomes/gil. You do not need to run AK more than 4 times a week and then you can go to castrum for fast runs. People are making far to much out of this.

[xRitzx]

I so do get the point. At the rate people were getting tomes before this even casuals would have been to end game in a month or 2 lol. Then what? I can run castrum in about 40 minutes and get 100 tokens with my FC and all of us in vendor white gear and a few crafting pieces of jewelry for materia farm. This is by far the best way to farm tomes/gil. You do not need to run AK more than 4 times a week and then you can go to castrum for fast runs. People are making far to much out of this.

That's a much better response, before you kind of grouped everyone into the elitist category. I am posting because if I didn't, SE wouldn't know they had another upset customer. I don't complain about much so I'm not one that will complain if this goes the other way but as you see I don't support the move SE has made here. I will have to try those alternative methods once I get to 50 if SE doesn't change the way tomes are earned. I agree it's not good for even casuals to complete end game in a month or two but Yoshida said something like less than 100 players would complete The Binding Coil of Bahamut before 2.1. If that holds true, there was never a problem with players completing content too fast. We'll see what happens.

[Ariyn]

Don't pug it then, I wont be. If you are so pro and going to be raiding you must have an all pro FC to run these with. Should go pretty fast with everyone in all Garuda HM weapons. I am sure everyone will be ok if you do not grace the DF with your presence.

I have no intentions of pugging. Haven't pugged AK in weeks with the exception of maybe 1 person. My point is that for those that do pug this is what they will run into. The groups are going to get worse then they already are and people will be required to have certain levels of gear in order to even attempt it unless they make their own groups. No one will waste the 1+ hr in a dungeon to fail. So instead of the speed run QQ threads we will have threads asking for harsher penalties for people that leave. Oh wait those are already started, can be prepared for alot more of them.

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I have no intentions of pugging. Haven't pugged AK in weeks with the exception of maybe 1 person. My point is that for those that do pug this is what they will run into. The groups are going to get worse then they already are and people will be required to have certain levels of gear in order to even attempt it unless they make their own groups. No one will waste the 1+ hr in a dungeon to fail. So instead of the speed run QQ threads we will have threads asking for harsher penalties for people that leave. Oh wait those are already started, can be prepared for alot more of them.

I honestly dont get why they let you PuG endgame content. Based on the huge amount of people that cannot handle the mechanics for NM Garuda, what made SE think that people could PuG AK or HM Ifrit. I say take them out of the DF.