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  1. #341
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    Defmetal's Avatar
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    Eadieni Valefor
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    the arguments against it are the same arguments as to why we should never have an expansion. It gives access to gear and loot and new jobs that regular subscribers can't have.

    What's wrong with selling a char or gender change? I don't wanna see cosmetic armor in the store, or cosmetic mounts. An appearance changer is a SERVICE. I don't mind SERVICES being sold. Services like Renames, Gender / Body / Race changes / or Server Transfers are perfectly acceptable ways for SE to make money without affecting the game negatively but improving a players experience. And yes cosmetic armors that are cash shop only do negatively affect the game or my experience but if someone gets tired of being a Galka and wants to become a Hume why not let them pay $10?

    If you allow name changes you should also make the blacklist and ignore list and friends list carry over to the new name though so people can't pay away bad reputations.
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  2. #342
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    armandojc3's Avatar
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    Apoc Baldr
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Implement this now please!!!! However you want i dont care or at least tell us we are getting it eventually.
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  3. #343
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    Devi Copperhawk
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Made smaller for fittings!.
    There is a shortage to tanks true, but the endgame FCs will always have a good supply, those are the ones competing and mostly between those guilds. There is no race between avg player X and avg player Y, so your correct there. This is just more an small amount of people that enjoy the race.

    The immersion thing goes both ways for RPers. Some will want no one to change, some will want to change. Not possible to please both groups 100% there.

    For the fashion show... in RL your allowed to change how you look whenever you want, so your example doesn't work there.. If I want to dress up as a Miqo'te one day, walk on my knees and be a Lallafell for lunch, and put on some stilts and be a Roegadyn for Dinner I can. Then tomorrow I can be some kinda lizard wizard for a fashion contest!

    And for hardcore PvErs, competing in PvP is laughable.
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  4. #344
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    Rikudou-Sennin's Avatar
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    Rikudo Sennin
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I'd like to have it just to change simple stuff like my hair or face paint from time to time. Not sure why there isn't an option in game to just do simple things like that. Ever hear of a barber? lol..
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  5. #345
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Shio Ban
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Going F2P when it becomes profitable is also another "standard MMO service", do you want SquareEnix to do that to?

    As for the gear vs fantasia: you were previously refering to a "it is ok, because it doesn't affect you". I used the same argument to motivate why I should be able to pay 5k dollars to buy i110 gear for my tank. Evidently, your previously provided reason for why you think it is okay to sell Fantasia for $ is not sufficient.

    As for "Pay to Win": which competition are we actually winning? There is no PvP and even if there was, the purchasable gear can be designed so that it can't be used in PvP.
    Wait what.

    This entire thread is about Phials of Fantasia, really no-one wants to discuss or consider adding in 'pay-to-win' gear. I don't know where you're pulling these cards from.
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  6. #346
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    HurtigeKarl's Avatar
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    Karl Hurtig
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Defmetal View Post
    the arguments against it are the same arguments as to why we should never have an expansion. It gives access to gear and loot and new jobs that regular subscribers can't have.

    What's wrong with selling a char or gender change? I don't wanna see cosmetic armor in the store, or cosmetic mounts. An appearance changer is a SERVICE. I don't mind SERVICES being sold. Services like Renames, Gender / Body / Race changes / or Server Transfers are perfectly acceptable ways for SE to make money without affecting the game negatively but improving a players experience. And yes cosmetic armors that are cash shop only do negatively affect the game or my experience but if someone gets tired of being a Galka and wants to become a Hume why not let them pay $10?

    If you allow name changes you should also make the blacklist and ignore list and friends list carry over to the new name though so people can't pay away bad reputations.
    Which is why expansions should be mandatory for people to continue playing. If someone gets tired of being a Galka and wants to become a Hume, they already got an option: make a new character.

    Quote Originally Posted by DerpyCubone View Post
    There is a shortage to tanks true, but the endgame FCs will always have a good supply, those are the ones competing and mostly between those guilds. There is no race between avg player X and avg player Y, so your correct there. This is just more an small amount of people that enjoy the race.

    The immersion thing goes both ways for RPers. Some will want no one to change, some will want to change. Not possible to please both groups 100% there.

    For the fashion show... in RL your allowed to change how you look whenever you want, so your example doesn't work there.. If I want to dress up as a Miqo'te one day, walk on my knees and be a Lallafell for lunch, and put on some stilts and be a Roegadyn for Dinner I can. Then tomorrow I can be some kinda lizard wizard for a fashion contest!

    And for hardcore PvErs, competing in PvP is laughable.
    In real life, you cannot really change to a new specie over the night. I don't mind ingame-barbers, in fact I think they should exist so that you can change your haircut and facial hair. An "solution" I would accept, would be if you could ingame buy a "costume" that looked like another specie, but only if it actually looked like a costume .
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    Last edited by HurtigeKarl; 10-16-2013 at 06:16 PM.

  7. #347
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    Missbone's Avatar
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    What game offers a complete recustomization for free? Not talking about just hair/face options here but the whole shabang as in race, gender, etc.

    Personally, I'm all for it. SE makes money and I get to essentially remake my character without losing my progress.
    Rift does if you have enough Ingame Money as far as i know.
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  8. #348
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Shio Ban
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    In real life, you cannot really change to a new specie over the night. I don't mind ingame-barbers, in fact I think they should exist so that you can change your haircut and facial hair. An "solution" I would accept, would be if you could ingame buy a "costume" that looked like another specie, but only if it actually looked like a costume .
    You may have missed out on a detail here but [This is a fantasy world] not real life, we're very very aware of that. Making comparisons to your real-life to a fantasy game is just ridiculous.
    Using the same system they already have in-place, just simply providing another way of obtaining it is what's being asked for, and some form of limitation on it, so people don't go crazy and change constantly.


    WoW had this system for years, and surprisingly hardly anyone used it, people grew accustomed to the race/gender they'd chosen and felt comfortable with it, some didn't and changed and it stuck they didn't need to use the service anymore.

    That's EXACTLY what we want.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 10-16-2013 at 10:07 PM.

  9. #349
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    This, I agree. Mog Station could offer some products.

    /signed
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  10. #350
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    Akubikumo's Avatar
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    Etsy Dreamcatcher
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Yes please!

    10 char
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