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  1. #101
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    Rekujen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
    They charge RL money for anything other than server transfers, if they charge for pets, cosmetics (both appearance or fashion items) name changes, mounts etc etc and my wife and I will drop this like a dirty diaper.
    Really? You would quit this amazing game because Square is giving players the option to change their appearance?

    That's sad, man.
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  2. #102
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
    I know that and that is why they charge a sub

    Slippery slope is slippery, micro transaction do not belong in a sub game , they belong in f2p micro-transaction game. They want to make money isn't a valid reason as the whole basis of sub games is that there will be no cash shop or such other you have to use RL money to "XYZ".

    They charge RL money for anything other than server transfers, if they charge for pets, cosmetics (both appearance or fashion items) name changes, mounts etc etc and my wife and I will drop this like a dirty diaper.

    We want to pay sub so we can avoid cash shops whether they be in game or not. Do this and we would no longer be willing to pay for a sub.

    Either be a sub based game or not and be f2p, be one or the other not some hybrid con.

    It's not my place, but i'd certainly hope you wouldn't quit the game if they did stupidly offer a few minions in exchange for cash.

    If they started offering pay-to-win items, such as money, gear/weapons, exp boosters.
    That's my limit, and i'd be ducking out. That's where the dark territory comes in.

    (/opinion)
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  3. #103
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    Arias Urea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    It's a standard MMO service to offer character appearance changes, and i'm the same as you. I get fickle and feel like changing.
    To be honest, I wouldn't have any problems with that either despite the sub, not that I want them to implement something like that or anything. All I really just want to do is just change my appearance instantly though. I think I'd be a bit miffed if they make it some 20,000+ GC seal type thing to unlock as that would take way too long. Other than wanting to try out a Lalafell I keep spotting out imperfections of my characters as I play under certain conditions and it bugs me.
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  4. #104
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    It's already been confirmed that HAIRSALON will be ingame, however, a racechange/custimization change will be added to SE store. Same with Collectors Ugrade, Server Transfer, and ya know, resubbing. Server xfers will probably be 3 months, so theres no say if the recustimization will be 3 months as well.
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  5. #105
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by pochte View Post
    It's already been confirmed that HAIRSALON will be ingame, however, a racechange/custimization change will be added to SE store. Same with Collectors Ugrade, Server Transfer, and ya know, resubbing. Server xfers will probably be 3 months, so theres no say if the recustimization will be 3 months as well.
    Server Transfers are scheduled for Mid-September. So in a few weeks i'd imagine.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    Really? You would quit this amazing game because Square is giving players the option to change their appearance?

    That's sad, man.
    Of course not! ...... Learn to read and the reason why I would quit will become clear. They can easily offer this service in game without RLM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shioban View Post
    It's not my place, but i'd certainly hope you wouldn't quit the game if they did stupidly offer a few minions in exchange for cash.

    If they started offering pay-to-win items, such as money, gear/weapons, exp boosters.
    That's my limit, and i'd be ducking out. That's where the dark territory comes in.

    (/opinion)
    While I understand your position I do not agree with it.

    Like I said Slippery Slope, ....cosmetics leads to convenience leads to p2w a la star wars philosophy. I have seen it happen in too many games which have led to the hybrid scam a la DDO amongst others.
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    Last edited by Asmodeus; 09-12-2013 at 04:43 PM.

  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodeus View Post
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    I agree with much for this, it would greatly disappoint me if FFXIV turned into a subscription based game with an added cash shop, it'd really cheapen the name "Final Fantasy" and experience of XIV for me to see people selling items bought for cash for gil.

    However, that being said, I would like to see untradeable character customisation items or account actions, such as those found in WoW, and see it as the same as changing worlds, new world new look.
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  8. #108
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    this is going to happen sooner or later, and it's fine. offering conveniences or minions/mounts for real money is perfectly acceptable. P2W is where the line should be drawn, and honestly a STRICTLY p2p MMO with a P2W cash shop is basically unheard of.

    there's nothing to be worried about, people dont need to be paranoid just because you're able to buy a few convenience or cosmetic features from SE.
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  9. #109
    Player Shioban's Avatar
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    Shio Ban
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokimonsta View Post
    I agree with much for this, it would greatly disappoint me if FFXIV turned into a subscription based game with an added cash shop, it'd really cheapen the name "Final Fantasy" and experience of XIV for me to see people selling items bought for cash for gil.

    However, that being said, I would like to see untradeable character customisation items or account actions, such as those found in WoW, and see it as the same as changing worlds, new world new look.
    It'd be just as you said. An untradable item that the player could use when they feel they need to, for a one time apperance edit.

    Just like WoWs 'Account Services'. It'd be almost identical.
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  10. #110
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    Make this happen please, could we get an update if you guys are considering it?

    please.
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