Attention Tanks and DPS: It's not always the healers fault!

[Chiruru53]

Are you using cooldowns to avoid damage? are you stunning when appropriate? are you dodging red things on the ground or are you standing in it? are you fighting adds on top of the healer?

In my honest opinion the healer can be one of the most demanding roles in the party.
he has to watch the health of every member in the group as well as his own, struggle to keep up when a member does not comply with one of the above questions.... the list goes on. Demon wall is a great example of this, I have to be constantly moving, meanign I barely get a chance to heal or do anything, top that off when people sand in the purple stuff and red spots. I wish healers didn't get as much hate as they do and people would be much more understanding.

[Exphryl]

Been chain running ifrit all day for my staff. The amount of missed interrupts/stuns, and dps dying to charges, plumes, whatever is mind boggling....

If I can keep track of everybody's health, as well as constantly move, there is ZERO excuse for a DPS to watch his feet...

[Kaelias]

I have to agree with this post. There are too many people out there that don't know how to play their class properly. With that being said, sometimes it *is* the healers' fault, but most times it isn't. The sad thing is that the people that don't know how to play their class are the very ones that think that they do.

[Krystal_Storm]

DPS have no real responsibility and that is why so many people run DPS. The only classes that have real responsibility and thus are always challenged are tanks and Healers. If you are not a tank or a healer main then you have no right to whinge or complain they are doing it wrong because, lets face it, you can't handle nor understand that responsibility yourself. Most healers and tanks do not fail on purpose they do the best they can. Abusing tanks or healers because they do not live up to the often lofty expectations of the group is plain silly.

We are not infallible and do quite often slip up here and there so be patient and show some love towards the classes that keep you alive. You wonder why no one wants to roll with a Tank or a Healer end game? There it is! I concede some tanks and healers are very poor at the class but that does not give others the right to abuse them. Run the class yourself or move on.

[mermade]

DPS have no real responsibility

Not true. This statement gets old. Every class has a responsibility hence the whole "role" label. DPS responsibility is to deal damage, and for some DPS crowd control is a responsibility. BLM is responsible for sleeping as much as targeting the tanks target with as much damage as possible. I have had equals situations with all classes learning and not understanding his or her role yet.

Every class has a responsibility and a role as part of the team. Everyone deserves respect and consideration, whether tank, healer or damage dealer. Some people are still learning, so be patient and treat people fairly.

DPS Caster's need to pay attention to the mobs casting bar even more so than the red under their feet. The delay between the end of the cast bar + the red indicator/attack animation on the ground could get you hit even if you "think you were out of the red in time". There is also a delay once a caster starts casting, between stopping the cast to move, so watch that enemy mobs casting bar above his health as well as the red circles/indicators on the ground.

[Eunjio]

DPS have no real responsibility and that is why so many people run DPS. The only classes that have real responsibility and thus are always challenged are tanks and Healers. If you are not a tank or a healer main then you have no right to whinge or complain they are doing it wrong because, lets face it, you can't handle nor understand that responsibility yourself. Most healers and tanks do not fail on purpose they do the best they can. Abusing tanks or healers because they do not live up to the often lofty expectations of the group is plain silly.

This. Even though we try our best we still get abused/harassed/bashed/blamed for getting someone killed when its not entirely our fault. Theres alot more abuses for Tanks than healers in my experience. The reason why I became a tank is because there are a low supply of tanks in game and people need them to run dungeons/primals, etc ,etc, however My Motivation for playing as a Tank has just gone down the hill. People can just do it themselves if they aren't going to appreciate us being a tank and putting our effort into the fight for them. I also had to deal with 2 jerks in game, and Im not happy about it either.

[redisdrunk]

I've been happily playing a Scholar, and well I don't mind some (or many, even) screw ups; nothing makes me grit my teeth harder than seeing the melee DPS plant their feet and take every avoidable AOE to the face. Even if I can heal them through the AOE, it certainly doesn't hurt to like...even try and take a step to the left.

Also, with the stun thing? The GCD issue seems to be screwing up a lot of that, unfortunately.

[Greytarkis]

guys it's never a healer's fault for a dps who dies...

A tank ? maybe, we'd have to see case by case, but never for a dps, it's his own fault )))

[Kaelias]

guys it's never a healer's fault for a dps who dies...

A tank ? maybe, we'd have to see case by case, but never for a dps, it's his own fault )))

This is way incorrect. Dps'ers get hit too. We cant avoid everything, especially casters who cant move while casting. There are times when I think I have enough time to finish casting and I get hit. That's totally absurd to put the life of a dpser strictly on himself. If the healer isnt doing their job then we can die through no fault of our own.

Now we shouldn't be needing to get healed as often as a tank, but we still need heals ... especially if we dps hard enough to take aggro from the mob (yes, this actually happens).

The bottom line is it's a group effort.

[Veratic]

There are times when I think I have enough time to finish casting and I get hit.

...oh please

Try replace your situation as a healer, you're standing in a red ring and your healing spell is about to finish. Your target is a DD who is about to die and you are about to get hit by the red circle, THEN you know how what the situation really feels like.