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    Zabuza's Avatar
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Leviathan
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    Monk Lv 60

    Make Dungeons more worthwhile

    I waited 45 minutes with no duty finder pop for Copperbell Mines, I am a DPS. After this 45 minutes I went afk for 1 minute to do something real quick. In that 1 minute, the duty finder popped and went away, and I had to queue again. I am now in a queue for 30 minutes and counting.


    At first I wondered why duty finders queue took me so long. I know I am a DPS but wait times this long are still ridiculous. I believe the reason for this are that dungeons are not worthwhile after the first time people complete them. That and FATEs are the #1 way to gain experience at the moment so...


    Either nerf FATEs or make dungeons more worthwhile, because right now I am being gated from my mount and most of all cargo space that I so desperately need in the form of a retainer. Since I need the cargo space I am being forced to wait for what is over an hour so far just to get these things. I can imagine the experience will be similar in future dungeons as far as wait times go.


    To those who say I should play a tank or healer if I want faster queues, that should not be the solution. People who want to play DPS should not have to wait for over an hour to get a duty finder queue, SE needs to find a solution to make dungeons more desirable to do after the first time.
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    Ephany Crystal
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 62
    Or... hear me out... you can form your own group :O
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    Yami Dragonslayer
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    Diabolos
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    they need more healer classes for the duty finder and they need to nerf the fates xp a bit
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    lyse20's Avatar
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    Dragon Meat
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    Chocobo
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    Quote Originally Posted by Yamisniper View Post
    they need more healer classes for the duty finder and they need to nerf the fates xp a bit
    alot.
    the FATEs give to much XP compared to the time it takes to do it vs a Dungeons + they give seals.

    no point have more healers when there is FATEs thats even better then dungeons.

    remove 20-50% of the XP in FATEs(or more) and/or add Seals to dungeons(FATEs should still give alot more then Dungeons)+ more XP (if "or" part)

    if this happend you might get more people going to Dungeons then FATE grinding.

    the fun part is that if i dont pick JP players to do dungeons with it takes 10-30 mins to find a party wile if i pick JP people i find one in less then 5 mins(as healer).
    most if the times i have waited was because we was missing a tank
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    Mazi's Avatar
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    Mazi'to Apkallu
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    While I agree with the whole FATES being too good for everything it will NOT solve the dungeon queues, reason being if dungeons are more attractive more people will do them, which in turn means A TON OF DPS WITH WAY LESS HEALERS/TANKS so really nothing gets resolved because the problem is the disproportionate amount of DPS to Heals/Tanks.
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    Zabuza's Avatar
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephany View Post
    Or... hear me out... you can form your own group :O
    Duty finder clusters several servers together when looking for a group. What do you think my chances would be of finding a healer/tank on my server alone vs looking on a cluster of servers of people who are specifically looking for dungeons?
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    Acheron Faeles
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    Duty finder clusters several servers together when looking for a group. What do you think my chances would be of finding a healer/tank on my server alone vs looking on a cluster of servers of people who are specifically looking for dungeons?
    I know its a strange suggestion but it's STILL easier and quicker to put together your own group. Just try it.
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    If you put together your own group you're not restricted to 1 healer, 1 tank, 2 dps setup that duty finder otherwise enforces.

    Want faster queues as dps, convince more people to play healers and tanks.
    More healer/tank classes would do little as if someone don't like to play a healer (or tank), adding healer (or tank) classes will do almost nothing to help.
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  9. #9
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    Zefis Shadowsea
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    Leviathan
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gramis View Post
    I know its a strange suggestion but it's STILL easier and quicker to put together your own group. Just try it.
    Even if what you suggested worked it still doesn't change the fact that there is a fundamental flaw with the system when it is this hard to find dungeons in the duty finder. I doubt that when SE created the duty finder they wanted people to wait possibly over an hour to find a dungeon with it. Something has to be done or it may turn away newcomers. There are a lot of impatient people whose first thought would not be to try to form their own group in server, rather... they would get angry and possibly think about unsubbing because of it. That is my main concern.
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    Mazi'to Apkallu
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
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    There is no flaw, there is no MMO with a dungeon quuee system where DD get fast queues it is the simple fact that people usually do not play tanks or healers so if you want to fix this the only option is to get people to play tanks and healers or to make parties bigger to squeeze in more DD per dungeon.

    And if people are so god awful impatient and lazy that they won't make their own party and leave because the queue isn't fast enough then I say mission accomplished we just weeded out some terrible person from the community.
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