Cooking shard costs, 30 minute duration, fading on death.

[meJojo]

The largest problem in your "list of problems" is not even listed here.
Some food takes a philo tome item for 125 tomes. It makes one food item. That's a retarded amount of cost for one food.

Wait, what?

[Teykos]

The largest problem in your "list of problems" is not even listed here.
Some food takes a philo tome item for 125 tomes. It makes one food item. That's a retarded amount of cost for one food.

Err, more like just one food item? Sauteed Coeurl. That's it. They decided to give all of the other philosphy tome item requirements to Alchemy instead.

[Alkimi]

Should probably also be mentioned that a lot of 2-star food is a waste anyway. For example comparing a popular DPS food, HQ Devilled Eggs, which are easy to make and HQ, to it's supposedly superior 2-star version:

HQ Devilled Eggs
Crit Rate +5% (Max:24) - Requires 480 base crit to get full amount.

NQ Apkallu Omelette:
Crit Rate +3% (Max:22) - Requires 733 crit to get full amount and would still be inferior.

HQ Apkallu Omelette:
Crit Rate +4% (Max:27) - Requires 625 base crit to be more beneficial than HQ Devilled Eggs.

So unless you're packing ridiculous amounts of crit and can somehow get way up into the 600s (doubt it's even possible) the 2-star food, NQ or HQ, is a waste.

[Zettomer]

First of all, what Alkimi said. Second of all, Culi is hardly forgotten, it has AMAZING DoH skills. Third, shards are dirt cheap. 30k for 1000 is nothing when you actually sell the stuff you make. The fact that food fades after 30 minutes is it's biggest strength and the most desirable trait for the class. Because food isn't permanent, people have to buy more, which means you can sell more. Fact is, if you have a lvl 50 culi (or any crafting class really) and you're NOT making a 100k a day or more off it? Then you're doing it wrong. THAT is why you're not getting anything out of it. Culi is in high demand for end-game content and the market turnover for that class' products is absolutely top notch, the other class that comes close is Alchemist, but because Alc is situational, where as food buffs are something you "always want on", which gives Culi a significant advantage.

[Zettomer]

I don't give a rat's ass about the market value of food. My FC's currently fighting lag on Titan and I want to cook for them, and I'm not doing that when I need one recipe per person per 10 minutes of play.

Also, am I the only one who finds it ironic that even the current, crappy food market can only be sustained because we have bots mining shards 24/7 and selling them for nothing?

Holy crap are you really implying that's where the majority of shards come from? Botting? Granted, there may be some RMT peoples involved but it's probably not from miner bots. Easiest way to make crystals is as such:

Step 1: Make a new character
Step 2: Do the first 3 crafting quests for each DoH
Step 3: You now have thousands of every shard type ??!?!?!
Step 4: Mail to friend and profit.
Step 5: Delete character.
Step 6: Goto Step 1.

It's insanely easy. Do the quests. Get thousands of shards.

Also considering you can mine up to 4 or 5 shards per pick axe swing? Dude, just get a DoL class if you don't want to quest for it (although most of the quests req. npc buyable junk), what the heck are you doing? Crafting sucks without DoL anyway. Are you seriously BUYING all your mats? No wonder you're upset, you're doing it wrong. =/

[Zoeila]

Just make food like it was in ffxi and problem solved no?

[MooooBaaaaaMeee]

You dont die / suffer from malnutrition in FF14. Yet cost of 1 serving of food is equivalent to an equipment. Make sense? I hope those food give me diabetes.

Mr. Alkimi @ #173 did the calculation, Other than the vit / exp bonus, the other food bonuses are trivial in game contents.

Mooched / Double mooched fishes are useless but lv 30 apkallu eggs are really precious. AND people farming these eggs are all lv capped. Hi2BRD/WHM. Lv 30 toons? Please fate.

I dont feel right with the system. Looking at all those objections maybe I belong to the minority.

[BlueMage]

Greetings,

We are currently working on adjustments for patch 2.1 to make it so food effects do not wear off when you are KOed.

We understand that there have been a lot of feedback asking for longer effect durations or higher stats when considering the materials needed for high level recipes, but we’d first like to monitor the situation with the planned adjustments.

I assumed we lost the effects because we emptied our bowels on death.

[Ksenia]

Holy crap are you really implying that's where the majority of shards come from? Botting? Granted, there may be some RMT peoples involved but it's probably not from miner bots. Easiest way to make crystals is as such:

Step 1: Make a new character
Step 2: Do the first 3 crafting quests for each DoH
Step 3: You now have thousands of every shard type ??!?!?!
Step 4: Mail to friend and profit.
Step 5: Delete character.
Step 6: Goto Step 1.

It's insanely easy. Do the quests. Get thousands of shards.

Also considering you can mine up to 4 or 5 shards per pick axe swing? Dude, just get a DoL class if you don't want to quest for it (although most of the quests req. npc buyable junk), what the heck are you doing? Crafting sucks without DoL anyway. Are you seriously BUYING all your mats? No wonder you're upset, you're doing it wrong. =/

Are you reading this Square?
This is what people will do to get around shard farming. Working as intended?

[Tupsi]

The average player is not using food, because it's not worth it.

The average player isn't using food because they want to remain average, it isn't because "it's not worth it."