Demon wall little too hard?

[Nictuswolf]

So, after spending about 3 hrs wiping against this thing it has become clear that "Certain classes" are not going to really get this done.

Namely SMN/BLM, as both require you to stand still and pew pew. Demon Wall does not allow this...Almost at all.

Not only do you get the poison on the ground that gives random debuffs and damage but you have the knockback, adds, adds that do large AOEs that do pretty nasty damage and you get the room cut in half.

I am all up for a challenge but Demon Wall is just seems broken.

[Valrayne]

I have no issues with it as a BLM. Have you tried standing right next to the poison lanes and then hopping over just before the other one spawns? There should be little movement besides having to run to the middle to position yourself for repel and running back after. Oh and the tank should have the adds near the wall on the other side of party members so that they aren't hit with the aoe paralyze.

[Menubrea]

I DPS full time on this fight as a Scholar while still keeping everyone up, I don't get why Summoners and Black Mages can't do the same. Also Summoner/BLM Limit Break is great for adds if you choose to go the kill adds route.

The pattern for positioning is side-> middle-> side-> middle-> repel --- repeat.

[Richiealvian]

It does take extra patience, but I did one with bard+blm yesterday.. Wiped about 5 times, as I was new to the fight. I think you can do better if you geared up a bit more (darklight), not saying it's impossible without but it does take some meticulous hand work. If you had better gears then healers will have easier time with you, especially that random nuke that hits for 300-ish damage and is very frequent.
It does get extra hard when adds come out and there's an AOE circle in front and black gooey thing behind. I was playing as a scholar and the lack of medica actually makes it the whole lot harder (repel does 700-ish, i heal 200-300ish+shield, i was using AF gears and ifrit book but I realized I wasn't healing them back to full health fast enough)

I do think as you gear up this fight becomes easier, and the game is still in its early stage so I actually like where it's at now =)

[Blazer]

You could either have your tank put the flys together and do aoe limit break, you and the other dd focus fire 1 fly while tank holds the other, or you can have tank hold both flys while you focus fire wall.

There are now several videos on youtube of people running AK, you can watch what they do.

[LunarEmerald]

You have about 5 seconds before the floor switches. The bees are easy to deal with if you use a limit break. They're the only real difficult part of the fight.

[Holyhunter]

It follows a simple pattern and it actually lines up almost perfectly with your cast timers if you're a blackmage. You also have manaward which will completely negate both the damage and the knockback from repel, once.

[Furious]

It is slightly unfriendly to casters. It is not nearly as bad as you say if you know the order of the fight, which you should after 3 hours.

Here is a 10 second picture to show you how little movement there is in this fight if you do it right.

Start by going to 1 before you cast. When the first zone pops, step twice to 2. Then step to 3 (back to 1) and wait for middle void again. Then, 5 steps to center. After knockback, back to 1.

That's it. There is very little movement at all. People go crazy trying to get way over to the left and way back to the center each time - the majority of movements are 2 steps.

[Giyari]

Actually, they can do it, the boss uses the same pattern, so you just time your spells properly. It isn't an issue.

It's hard on whm too, I mean they are casters too right?

[Nocte]

I do fine on a SMN, mainly because I'm casting d.o.t's (and that lovely d.o.t-reliant burst) at every feasible opportunity I get, which given the ease of predictability of Demon Wall's lane-targeting is pretty simple.