Fishing has too much RNG

[Tlamila]

Really...if we wanna make comparison wit real life fishing...if you go fishing everything with just a cane standing on the shore good luck. Sure in game we can't use boats and nets and sonar and everything. But this is a game so...

[Zareth]

Maybe fishing just isn't something for you. If something in a game causes a negative type of stress for you, it's recommended that you avoid it. Unless the elation of finally getting what you wanted is enough to make it worth the while, you're better off ignoring it.

For this reason alone, I will never unlock Lulu's final weapon in FFX because of those bloody lightening towers.

[Reika]

297 gathering, 241 perception....... I'm pretty sure I'm good. Pretty above the requirement for HQ fullmoon sardine. And that thread doesn't have any locations that don't include a meritor goby or a full moon sardine, which I am fishing from. I've cought 2 whole silver shark the whole time i've been gunning for them, I know where they are. Finally, this is not just about Silver sharks. That was merely my current frustration at the time.

And the talk about "luck". Why should one get lucky in order to get the material to craft a great number of items, while the other 2 dol's do not require nearly as much luck, as far as their gathering success rate goes (which can be increased by skills, something fisher cant do). There shouldn't be a major shortage of a crafting mat because fishers aren't lucky enough to land the fish. Thats like putting every other gathered mat in the game at ~10% successful gather rate, give or take by adding the same RNG factors fisher has.

[Mordermi]

297 gathering, 241 perception.

Yeah, I'm sure your stats are fine. I understand that it's frustrating. I was just trying to help with your issues of needing Silver Sharks for crafting. If you only catch one Silver Shark in a whole day of fishing, then there might actually be something wrong.

I won't argue about how things should be, or if luck should be involved. I merely chimed in to try to help.

[Reika]

And, my point will continue to stand. Fisher needs to be made similar to the other 2 dol, only its bait needs to be the aim. If I am aiming at a lvl24 fish, i need to select a level 25 or level 20 bait, only with the exception of fish that like certain baits only, and fish that need to be mooched. ALL others need to be on bait level -> fish level relationship. This RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG shit needs to quit.

[Zareth]

With that much perception and gathering, what are your chances of catching a HQ Goby? I'm not high enough in fishing yet (mostly due to time constraints) to test what the rate is to catch a HQ fish. Is it higher than 15-25%?

[Orophin]

After all of the fishing I have done, I have come to the conclusion that if you use a bait that is near or above the level of a fish you're trying to catch, said fish has the capability of biting on all of those baits. Certain fish react better to certain bait and will narrow down what you catch, so finding the optimal bait based on the fish located in a particular area is the challenge.

An example would be taking a Crow Fly to the Yugr'am River in Eastern Thanalan will yield a high percentage of Warmwater Trout. Even though you can find Warmwater Trout in other places, the biterate here is better due to the grouping of fish that don't react well to the Crow Fly.

[Reika]

I'm not denying there are lure/bait specific fish at all, however it is still merely a level game even with this one. Crow fly is lvl20, warmwater trout is lvl23, the next highest fish is level 25 and one of them also bites on fly lures, dark bass. Because of the level disparity between crow fly and the level 25 fish (the fish is higher level), you wont catch them as often as you would warm water trout. You can also catch warm water trout with chocobo fly, wildfowl fly and streamer, tho with those you will catch everything else that happens to be programmed to bite on fly lures that are below the level of the lure and no more than 5 levels above.

When it comes to aiming at a high level fish in a pool with fish lower level than it that have no specific bait, there is too much RNG, and there are a lot more of those than there are bait specific fish.

[WildOglop]

My biggest gripe with fishing at the moment is as the title says, too much RNG.
Let's look at how mooching works:
A.) Catch a HQ fish
B.) Catch a HQ fish that can actually be mooched
C.) Catch intended fish from mooching as opposed to every other fish that eats said HQ fish

[PaPaRoach76]

As an avid fisherman in RL, I can tell certain baits are used to target certain fish. Like when I am crappie fishing & I use a crappie jig, minnow, or cricket I know I am after crappie. Will I catch a sun perch or small mouth bass on occasion, sure, but the majority of the fish I will catch are crappie. Same when I am using just plain ol' worms or chicken/turkey livers. I am targeting catfish. Will I catch something else, sure, but the majority will be catfish. So yes there should be a more refined list for certain bait.