@Amdapor Keep Whiners

[Raksu]

i wont play tank before they fix speed runs. its looks very expensive for tanks and make u angry. all thouse times watching tank rush and healer get trash aggro and dps or healer fails in bosses and need make new rush to boss room.

Feel sorry for tanks:/

[Meklore]

I fail to see your point. what's so terrible about watching a guide on a fight? Did you never study for tests in school? Or by your logic did you just go into every test and just wing it? a 5 minute video isn't asking a lot. I hated doing it myself as well before. Then I one day decided hey. I'm going to watch this guide. 5 minutes isn't a lot. and lo and behold, I did, and hey, I still had fun in the fight AND I wasn't holding anyone back! WOW!

And if everyone stopped playing like you people love to say, your precious game wouldn't last very long now would it. So give it up with that tired old response, it's unoriginal and seriously getting old.

So using that logic, do you work an extra hour or two at your job for free to get better at it? Didn't think so.
This is a game I play, not a job. I already have one of those.

[ilJumperMT]

i wont play tank before they fix speed runs. its looks very expensive for tanks and make u angry. all thouse times watching tank rush and healer get trash aggro and dps or healer fails in bosses and need make new rush to boss room.

Feel sorry for tanks:/

Get it thru your head. Its cheaper even for tank to die 3 times then clearing all trash.

[Chiruru53]

So using that logic, do you work an extra hour or two at your job for free to get better at it? Didn't think so.
This is a game I play, not a job. I already have one of those.

Actually I HAVE done that numerous times. it's called volunteer work. lol.

[Bahram]

Say what you will about speed running or not speed running, when I get to running AK (pretty soon) I intend to just stick to my server and avoid the cross-server duty finder altogether. That way I can form up a party where everyone is on the same page, rather than finding myself in a war zone over something that shouldn't even be an issue. I mean, it's pretty clear that dying to trash so that others can skip it and rez you isn't intended. I'm not foaming at the mouth here, but you've got to be crazy if you think Square designed it thinking people would skip the trash via tank death. They would have just created it without trash.

I hope they do something about this soon, people are pretty justified in feeling like they're being robbed of their dungeon crawling experience. A lot of people aren't necessarily about farming as hard as they can for gear they know they'll get eventually. If that means increasing rewards for killing trash or making it impossible to skip, either way I don't care. Just fix it so threads like this and groups like the ones described stop happening.

EDIT: When I say "groups like the ones described" I mean ones where fallout occurs over this issue. I don't care if you want to speed run in your own party.

[Kyp]

I'd love to do AK but I'm pretty sure nobody wants a tank who doesn't know how to do the speed run, let alone teach them. I'll just go back to everything else and avoid the rest of the high level stuff, doesn't sound too fun if this thread is anything to go by.

If you explain that you want to speed run also, just ask for boss strats, they will like you regardless, or they can go back to thier 30m queue.
And sometimes u want to clear a few packs of adds anyway.

[Xenor]

My first AK run today was a waste of time. Queued for 25 minutes and because the tank was on his first run the healer and another DPS decided to leave. So I had to go queue again too. I like speed as much as the next person but if the community can't play nice SE has to step in and they will kill speed runs.

Imagine being a new player, you finally beat the story and begin end game and you encounter this crap. It's not nice and SE will lose subs as a result.

You even get people doing the same on Castrum, forcing people to skip the story cutscenes or they leave.

[Avengedangel]

My first AK run today was a waste of time. Queued for 25 minutes and because the tank was on his first run the healer and another DPS decided to leave. So I had to go queue again too. I like speed as much as the next person but if the community can't play nice SE has to step in and they will kill speed runs.

Imagine being a new player, you finally beat the story and begin end game and you encounter this crap. It's not nice and SE will lose subs as a result.

You even get people doing the same on Castrum, forcing people to skip the story cutscenes or they leave.

Crap like that is what is turning people away from wanting to tank.

When I first got to the end and saw that, I knew more BS was to come.

[DSN]

ANNNND there goes your credibility.
and also, our insane repair bills and lack of means to make gil at any reasonable, decent rate make me unable to care less how many of you would rather sit and look at stone buildings or whatever or kill the same mob over and over for about an hour or so. Do that on your own time with your friends who share your wants and desires please.

Why don't you circumvent the game with your friends! Why are we in the duty finder who want to RUN a dungeon the ones to blame here? If you want to do 'speed' runs find 3 friends and you can do them all day long no one is going to care.

[Xenor]

Crap like that is what is turning people away from wanting to tank.

When I first got to the end and saw that, I knew more BS was to come.

The weird part is it's usually the tanks and healers that do the leaving. Since they're so in demand they can hold a party to ransom because if they leave it's over. If a DPS leaves who cares, a replacement will spawn within a minute. So you do it their way or not at all.

There's a simple solution. The dungeon drops 40 mythology and 90 philosophy. Just give 1 philosophy for every trash mob killed and 10, 15, 15 mythology for the bosses.