@Amdapor Keep Whiners

[mekia]

My first AK run today was a waste of time. Queued for 25 minutes and because the tank was on his first run the healer and another DPS decided to leave. So I had to go queue again too. I like speed as much as the next person but if the community can't play nice SE has to step in and they will kill speed runs.

Imagine being a new player, you finally beat the story and begin end game and you encounter this crap. It's not nice and SE will lose subs as a result.

You even get people doing the same on Castrum, forcing people to skip the story cutscenes or they leave.

boohooo 25 mins? I wait 40-70mins xD and than the healer quits because tank is new and does not know about speedruns.

[FluffyM]

If that's their opinion on the subject, that's their opinion. Doesn't necessarily make them retarded for having it.

It makes them retarded if their opinion runs contrary to facts. You know, like, "in my opinion, earth is a flat disc". Retarded.

[Awake]

I always ask if ppl wants to do a speed run, and so far NONE complained.

[Thane]

Once they fix gear wear and repairs, and actually give us incentives to kill trash, people will do it. Until then, you have to forcefully turn a blind-eye if you think speed runs aren't actually the better way to go, whether if its for farming Tomestones or saving gil on repairs.

I saw someone say challenge? Sorry, the trash isn't challenging, and it actually hurts you far more to clear it.

[Raymeo]

I could see speed runs being great in a group that can one-shot bosses.

As a tank, I could also see them take a ridiculous toll on my pocket book if I'm playing with people who have never killed a Demon Wall before. The number of wipes with those groups has taken me to 10% gear condition WITHOUT me doubling my death toll.

In Duty Finder, there's no telling who I'm playing with. As such, I will be pulling trash, and you have the choice of dealing with it or returning to queue. Sorry, but gil (and a back-up set of gear in case of breaks during a bad PUG) doesn't grow on trees, and I'm just not a fan of gambling.

[ZohnoReecho]

It will be fun when SE forces everyone to kill trash mobs in a way or the other.

It's sad from both a dev's POW and a player's.
The devs put time in placing mobs and giving them AI to make a challenge, the players instead exploit a game mechanic to quickly reach the top, because they won't be able to play the game anymore tomorrow, maybe they gotta finish it before the free subscription runs out because their parents won't pay the fee.
If you feel the need to rush the game instead of enjoying it, because you know, you play to have fun, not to stress over the "omg, my friends will think I'm a noob for taking so much time", maybe you should think twice before continuing to play.

[Luda]

i don't actually understand why would you want to not do a speed run? it's not like you get exp at 50.

To build your LB maybe? Don't need it on first boss, it's built for the 2nd boss where you can use it.

Or is it because the missing of one or two chests? i mean, do you really want them 6 tin pieces?

[d4rkie]

I kill all mobs to spiritbond armor I make for myself. then switch to aetherial/rare set when going for the boss. works for me, I guess

[charlemagne]

I speed run Ampador Keep. Most people want to sped run Ampador Keep. The people who want to do the full dungeon are a minority.
If I did wish to run the whole dungeon, I doubt very much that I would find it difficult to put together a static group for it just by shouting in one of the cities. With several thousand players online I think finding another three shouldn't be too much of a problem.
As we can hold multiple linkshells, one solution to your problem may be to start and to advertise a full run linkshell. You could target yourselves as focusing on learning the whole dungeon properly with no pressure on people to skip cutscenes and the like. Perhaps the simplest and most elegant solution.

[Bjinc]

The people who want to do the full dungeon are a minority..

Im sorry and your proof for this is where? Theres probably a fair amount of the silent majority that would like to do a full run but the vocal minority piss and moan about stuff alot more and people cave in. I agree with ZohnoReecho, i cant wait for them to fix speed runs so people have to do the full run. Squeenix put all that effort into making the dungeon and people decide to exploit it while waving the "i dont have enough time to play so want stuff fast" flag and skip pretty much all of it. I shall be taking my time to enjoy sqeenix's work when i get round to doing AK. People getting into bad habits is not good for the community as a whole.