@Amdapor Keep Whiners

[Dallie]

I've stated this elsewhere, but I don't think most people have an issue with the idea of speedrunning itself. It's more the problem that speedrunning has caused in duty finder, where anyone new to a dungeon has a high chance of being abandoned on the grounds of "no experience" or wanting to run it normally on their first time.

As another thread pointed out, it's a specific set of player types causing the rift, namely a lot of the Legacy or 'let's rush to 50' types. This definitely needs some address by SE, and quickly before the old community destroys the new with its toxicity. Speed running in and of itself is great, but vamoosing before even taking a minute or two to explain the strategy is just flat-out asinine.

The OP's post-title is a premium example of that attitude, although the post is informative.

[Hikozaemon]

i think the entire blame of this should be placed on SE for poor dungeon loot/drop designs. Here are some great ways to increase players wanting to actually run dungeons
1.monsters drop $ pieces randomly and not just bronze pieces
2.boss chest drop 1 Mage gear 1 Tank gear 1DPS gear even sub boss chests.
3.Monsters give 1-2 tomes per kill.
4.Monsters drop higher tier Potions x/mega.
5.Dark matter chests

wow look funner more incentive dungeons!

[redisdrunk]

2.boss chest drop 1 Mage gear 1 Tank gear 1DPS gear even sub boss chests.

You deserve like, a dollar for that. Seriously.

I get that 'random is random!' but going 8-9 dungeons without seeing a single piece of Mage gear drop (even a piece I don't need) has been super frustrating.

[neverendingxsin]

Why do you guys want to kill the SAME TRASH MOBS EVERY SINGLE RUN?!?! Its a waste of time especially if its the same group going every time.

[Balaur]

Why do you guys want to kill the SAME TRASH MOBS EVERY SINGLE RUN?!?! Its a waste of time especially if its the same group going every time.

Why do you guys want to kill the SAME BOSSES EVERY SINGLE RUN?!?1ELEVENTY It[']s a waste of time[,] especially if it[']s the same group going every time.

I'd call into question why you keep going into Amdapor Keep repeatedly anyway. If it's for the tomestones, then that there is your incentive to run the dungeon, and you run it for those stones. But it's not the only dungeon that drops tomestones, now is it? Now, I'd think all mobs should drop something, some parts for crafting materials at the least. But the silly, excessive, and frankly WoW-esque suggestions for making the trash viable on their own seems misplaced. Sure the mobs could give EXP, but then the tomestone drops make up for that, do they not.

[Drakan]

I'd call into question why you keep going into Amdapor Keep repeatedly anyway. If it's for the tomestones, then that there is your incentive to run the dungeon, and you run it for those stones. But it's not the only dungeon that drops tomestones, now is it? Now, I'd think all mobs should drop something, some parts for crafting materials at the least. But the silly, excessive, and frankly WoW-esque suggestions for making the trash viable on their own seems misplaced. Sure the mobs could give EXP, but then the tomestone drops make up for that, do they not.

It's the only dungeon that awards mythology tombstones (aside from Binding Coil of bahamut, for which you must have beaten Titan hard to gain access). So yes, it's pretty much the only dungeon you can spam to farm those tombstones. Even beating Garuda hard gives only 15 myth tombstones, while Amdapor Keep gives 40...

[mmcsky]

Speed running with your FC mates and friends = cool beans! lets do this!

Speed Running with Pugs and strangers = hold up! who set up a firecracker up your rectum?!

[EdwinLi]

I say to promote people to not speed run have the tome drops increased from tash mobs and lower the rewards for completing dungeons.

Trash Mobs drop 5 tomes per kill.

Bosses drops 15 tomes per kill.

complete dungeon drops 15 tomes.

The whole reason they speed run is not just because it is faster but because the rewards for simply completing the dungeon is more rewarding than killing everything in the dungeon and taking your time.

[Raksu]

i wont play tank before they fix speed runs. its looks very expensive for tanks and make u angry. all thouse times watching tank rush and healer get trash aggro and dps or healer fails in bosses and need make new rush to boss room.

Feel sorry for tanks:/

[ilJumperMT]

i wont play tank before they fix speed runs. its looks very expensive for tanks and make u angry. all thouse times watching tank rush and healer get trash aggro and dps or healer fails in bosses and need make new rush to boss room.

Feel sorry for tanks:/

Get it thru your head. Its cheaper even for tank to die 3 times then clearing all trash.