Let's talk Monks - A Discussion For The DPS Freaks

[Spythe]

Nice someone decided to make a legit thread about Monk DPS. I think its a bit too early to start worrying about rotations and MNK should instead worry about priorities like people are saying in the thread already.

Right now Twin Snakes buff and Dragon Kick debuff are must haves 24/7 and don't require alot of GCD to set up.

I can see MNKs getting a few quality of life changes, like GL stacks lasting 15s or 20s. Fists getting some love. And Perfect balance is kinda lackluster in its current form.

Plz don't forgot to change your Fists for harder content, a lot of bosses have unavoidable damage that have animations which gives you plenty of time to switch to Earth(-10% damage) then back to Fire(+5 damage). Wind is currently lackluster so hopefully they becomes the situational one and gets buffed. 20% movement speed and fast GCD while draining mana quickly so maybe it can only last 30sec max.

The Dragoon debuff/buffs are extremely similar but theirs are linked to their positions while our positions are only linked to our damage.

[mercenarri]

Quick question, does using Fists Of Fire against Ifrit actually reduce your damage?

[ilJumperMT]

Shoulder Tackle should be lower cd and refresh GL

Also according to my testing, adding in DoTs = DPS loss. I dropped all dots and did 30 more DPS (Touch of Death, Demolish and Fracture)

You're also asking the impossible to keep going to behind. Some mobs like in Amdapor Keep final boss, they have massive tail attack.

He rarely gives me time to use Bootshine -> True Strike. Most of the time I used Bootshine and have to GTFO

[Enda]

Also according to my testing, adding in DoTs = DPS loss. I dropped all dots and did 30 more DPS (Touch of Death, Demolish and Fracture)

i would like to see some sort of proof. maybe someone can support or refute this claim?

[ilJumperMT]

i would like to see some sort of proof. maybe someone can support or refute this claim?

I'm not sure myself it makes no sense but its what parsers are showing :/

I dont have one but when I dropped parsers i went up to 170 dps on ifrit hm for example


Edit: Dragon Kick from side does more damage then Bootshine (no stances). You should open the fight with Dragon Kick

[Enda]

I'm not sure myself it makes no sense but its what parsers are showing :/

i've been reading that parsers aren't calculating dots correctly. but that again is also here say, so i think it's still up in the air(emphasis on the word think)

[Almalexia]

I'm not sure myself it makes no sense but its what parsers are showing :/

I dont have one but when I dropped parsers i went up to 170 dps on ifrit hm for example


Edit: Dragon Kick from side does more damage then Bootshine (no stances). You should open the fight with Dragon Kick

Depending on which parser you use, you won't get all DoTs calculated.

ffxiv-app, for example, is bugged on Demolish/any DoT skill that doesn't have initial damage. Fracture and ToD parse fine.

[ilJumperMT]

Depending on which parser you use, you won't get all DoTs calculated.

ffxiv-app, for example, is bugged on Demolish/any DoT skill that doesn't have initial damage. Fracture and ToD parse fine.

http://ffxivlogrep.com/summary/ registers dot I think.

and lol at OP trying to make guide then flame me for saying open with Dragon Kick over Bootshine due to the fact Bootshine only crits in Opo-opo stance...

[LiuKang]

Theoretically DoTs should add more DPS as their potency over the duration is more than any other Monk attack.

Demolish = 240 total potency
Touch of Death = 270 total potency
Fracture = 220 total potency

However, doing many many AK speed runs I find that bosses die noticeably faster when I use a simple rotation (DK - Twin Snakes - Snap Punch) as opposed to keeping DoTs rolling.

[Spythe]

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However, doing many many AK speed runs I find that bosses die noticeably faster when I use a simple rotation (DK - Twin Snakes - Snap Punch) as opposed to keeping DoTs rolling.

So basically hitting 3 buttons the entire time? I don't think that adds up, I can understand doing ID over dots but just skipping them all together seems questionable.