The ability to duty finder 8 mans

[Shiyo]

Currently, 8 mans like ifrit, titan, garuda, extremely difficult bosses, especially the latter, that require competent players, a good strategy, good understanding of your class, patience, and a good party set up(pretty much need SMN/BLM for ifrit, BRD is basically required, WHM is very much needed) can be done using duty finder. Sure, you don't need the perfect party set up like I mentioned if you've got some gear, but when starting out, you're doing ifrit because you need his weapon, which is why you're doing it, and generally you're doing him because you're on his tier of gear right now.

The ability to duty finder it means less people shouting for parties, less people joinng FC's, less people looking for other players on their server to run it, and less statics being formed. Most people will just queue up, roll the dice, and pray for the best instead of trying to make a group on their own server. Because of this, it's even harder for people who WANT to make a competent group/static to do these fights even harder, because there's no LFG channel and there's much less people interested when they can queue up + afk + pray.

You will rarely succeed in duty finder for titan, almost NEVER for garuda, and even Ifrit is a toss up.

Can 8 mans please be removed from the duty finder? I would love to find more players on my own server to run this with, and meet new friends, but with the easability to just queue up and afk/craft/etc, there's a much smaller pool of players to pick from. It's harder to make a FC, harder to make a static, and harder to make friends.

I made a LFG LS on my server, and sometimes advertise it in /shout to get more members, since there is no LFG channel in the game, this will have to do. When I find members for ifrit and 8 mans, I have to teleport(This costs me a lot of gil..) to every high level zone and major city and /shout, hoping to find members.

[Flaeb]

I don't see the problem here. If you don't want to use Duty Finder, then don't use it?

[NefarioCall]

Personally, i'm pretty miffed that you can't duty finder the binding coil.
I understand that the win rate would be lower, but i still want to spam duty finder to play it rather than go for shout/FC parties sometimes.

[Alhanelem]

There's no reason to remove anything from the duty finder. If you don't want to take your chances with a DF party, then form a party of your own. It's really not that hard to form your own party.

(I have won nearly every DF ifrit party. Garuda is another story, but I HAVE won it with a DF group)

[Menubrea]

There's no reason to remove anything from the duty finder. If you don't want to take your chances with a DF party, then form a party of your own. It's really not that hard to form your own party.

(I have won nearly every DF ifrit party. Garuda is another story, but I HAVE won it with a DF group)

Ifrit is more or less a secure kill as long as you have a stunner (Paladin) and a Mage for AoE Limit break.

Now let me tell you folks about my experience with Garuda using DF. Every single time it's the same.

>A bunch of people make an effort to examine everyone's gear
>Makes sure you now if there is any shortcomings
>Says something about being carried on Ifrit, granting scrubs access to Garuda
>Asks who is new
>Makes demoralizing comments depending on how many new
>Stands around for 5 minutes.
>Suddenly pulls, with no explaination on what's about to happen
>Someone dies
>New comments on people's gear and scrubness
>Suddenly leaves, group gone

[Itseotle]

I like DF because I play at off-peak hours where its hard to do anything you mentioned already OP. What I think SE should do though is make a general server-wide Lv50 only chat.

[Shiyo]

Ifrit is more or less a secure kill as long as you have a stunner (Paladin) and a Mage for AoE Limit break.

This is exactly my point, having a paladin for stun and BLM or SMN for LB is almost essential to killing it. I also don't see two scholars being able to heal it, the lack of shell and extremely weak AOE healing would make the fight a disaster.

You need a certain class make up and competent players, so why does duty finder throw you into a x2 war x2 SCH double brd DRG MNK party?

The fact that duty finder exists makes it harder to form your own sever-only group, if duty finder didn't exist, you could form a group with competent players of proper set up much more easily.

[Menubrea]

Snip

I agree, Mage and Paladin is pretty essential for that fight, and not having DF enforcing that is pretty silly. Scholar is fine though, there's not that much AoE damage going about with the exception of the big one after nail, which you can easily solo heal even as a Scholar as long as you save your Fairy AoE heal, the healing buff and Rouse. Everyone is topped up in no time.

[Ceol]

Meteor LB and Paladin aren't essential. It's just that's the easiest strategy that all but guarantees a win. The problem is that too many people want to run in and start fighting without communicating with each other and fleshing out a strategy. That's why you're given so much time for the fight.

Believe it or not, you don't actually need to stun every Eruption. It's only the ones in his final phase where everyone is concentrated behind him. Outside of that, it's all about placement. In 1.0, we had everyone placed in certain positions on the outside of the arena so that people could run from Eruption without running into each other. The same thing can happen here (and it would be better since 1.0 had crazy latency problems making Eruptions a crapshoot.) It's just that people are lazy.

The solution would be for SE to nerf the fight a bit so it's more DF-friendly. Maybe they will. But don't act like a restriction created by the community is "essential" to a fight.

[Crica]

You will rarely succeed in duty finder

if ppl want to succeed more often, they will form their own groups

if ppl are ok with how it is, who are you to make them stop doing what they want to do?

if this is your way of asking SE to remove Duty Finder then all you are asking for is ppl to quit playing the game

and when ppl quit playing the game, there will be less money to use to develop content YOU enjoy

as much as it may pain you, you NEED more ppl to play the game, even if they play it a way you dont enjoy playing it

you have the option to go make friends and run the content all you want with your friends and solve your own issues

why dont you go do that instead of whine on a forum for SE to force ppl to play with you when all that would happen is LESS ppl would even play the game anymore?