Square, Don't let the Community ruin this game

[saber_alter]

I would expect PUG groups to not be organized speed runs. I believe the DF is a tool meant to be used to experience the content as intended (cut-scenes and all). Just seems like common sense to me. Luckily I haven't run into any gogogogogogogo people yet. Just some PS3 players who don't attack what I'm attacking when I tank. =P

trust me when i say this: it gets worse the higher you go.

at 50 some people simply have a tolerance level of zero. and i do not like those people.

so i agree with OP.

[Hanabira]

How is people not attacking what the tank attacks a PS3 issue? im not really sure why all the ps3 hate anyways. You should be smart enough to wait and see which mob's hp is being chipped away before going balls to the wall.

[Sfarzoso]

There is good and bad in this. But you can't expect everything too. If community is an issue for you ? Make friends! Constant drama & QQ about DF is more then annoying. Where is the community spirit ?

[Vansair]

Give it some time. All the douche bag Elitists will be gone soon and move on to another MMO to turn the Community sour, this is how things in MMOs are sadly. People will act anyway they want on a MMO till they get in trouble for it or banned.

[Vansair]

This is hilariously true. I joined a shout pty asking for a tank. Seeing as my main is PLD and needed some AK that day, I hopped on. They were asking in their shout for the tank to have at least DL gear. As soon as I accepted invite I told them I had very little DL gear. They literally flipped and contemplated leaving the party. Evtrogen levels and basically say "fuck it" lets go. When we load into AK they see I have Relic and a couple AF2 pieces, instantly praising me. I subsequently dropped the party because I refuse to play with people who impose their own restrictions on others. It's BS but its encouraged by this game and its vertical gear progression.

Honestly that just people being dbags and thinking that gear is everything, or play our way our you go. I ran AK in Full AF1 gear and didnt die once. What you saw was people being well what people are on the internet, a bunch of self entitled children.

[Sfarzoso]

a bunch of self entitled children.

I do love the use of this. So true!

[Anakhu]

We were all new at some point, nobody jumped in here with maxed stats and full gear without earning it ( even the legacy had to start fresh in 1.0 ) , I know this, and everyone else should know this. Attacking people because they are new to the content you are currently doing is the dumbest thing ever , you were new to it also at some point. I run AK nice now, and don't mind running with new players to it. As a healer I kinda like it in a way as it brings a challenge to the plate. That being said, my first time in AK was terribly terrible on my behalf , but my team stuck with me even as the timer rolled to zero. Nobody called anyone names, they understood it was a first run.

They watched where I had problems and tried to point them out to me , it helped immensely. If I had just been yelled at and people raged out and quit, where would that have got me?It would have kept me in the no knowledge still and i'd que up making the same experience of gaming for the next party because I have yet to fully understand the mechanics. Knowing people are willing to help me like that, makes me much more willing to help the next "new" guy.



TLDR; We were all noobs at some point, help your fellow players out as you know others had helped you. This is an MMORPG , we should be trying to build a strong community united, not divided and hating on eachother because we havn't the gear you got or completed the run you have 1,000 times. If we work together, our experiences will improve greatly.

[Anakhu]

How is people not attacking what the tank attacks a PS3 issue? im not really sure why all the ps3 hate anyways. You should be smart enough to wait and see which mob's hp is being chipped away before going balls to the wall.

right? wth absurd statement is that lol. How can one blame only ps3 players not attacking his target lol. I play on ps3, and i'm pretty sure when tank marks a target it pops up the same as on pc :\

all dis ps3 hate.

[Ryios]

I have NEVER, Ever, had a single issue with the duty finder except on Titan HM, and for Titan HM I understand why people leave. When I que for AK we run it, when I que for CM we run it. I've never had an AFK'er. I've even had groups wipe the full 90 minutes on something and keep trying. I'm just lucky I guess. But I'm also a pretty tolerant tank. I take lead where no lead is present.

[Sixmp]

Same for you. I know this is only your opinion so I could stop right there but, did you actually read this whole thing?

You need to cite more then just a few lines out of context.
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Actually i did read the whole thing. While you are quoting more you have not added any context to the section i pasted. I wonder why that is. I quoted one small section. I let other people read the rest of it.

It is obvious to practically anyone who is fair minded that it was meant for newer players to progress. Until they found people to play with. Free Companies, Link Shells. IT is these that people who have played MMO's for a long time should be using.
Not the Duty Finder which was added to prove to the normal game player who had never played an MMO that it is easy and enjoyable to form a party. Until they have formed enough friends etc that they no longer need Duty Finder to hold their hand.

Unfortunately you are trying too hard to prove a point you have already lost. First you claim their was no written evidence by SE stating what the use of DF. When some is posted you then try as hard as you can to use the text to your advantage.

I didn't need context to the section i quoted. All you have done is bolded sections that work for you while ignoring the context. You even included "Therefore, I believe the duty finder is a "necessary feature for the players new to the world of MMORPGs."

Which is exactly what was being said. It is for NEW people. Would you class people doing speed runs as "new". I know i wouldn't

The idea of an MMO is to join up with people to beat content. If you join up with people then you shouldn't need duty finder. Only NEW players would need it.

It would also make sense that people who are in LS and FC would not need to use DF as much as a new player as they have people to play with.

But no, instead of common sense people want to use everything their own way, with complete disregard to other people using it. Here new player let me force you from watching content you paid for because i am not new and i demand you bow to my will and speed run with me.


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