3/4 say kick to kick the 4th to try and make it not too abused.

Lets face it at 50 using the DF you get lv50's who are using lv47 whites (NOT EVEN AF) in your group for AK and it isn't going to end well and when this is say your tank it isnt even going to start, but we get the penalty because there is nothing stopping people from joining something thy are not ready for (gear or skill or both)