Post Your Solution For Gil Generation

[Ormathon]

Problem is in a month max, the market board might be useless for selling stuff since people are already undercutting on items down to vendor price and undercutting on items that are not even selling yet by 1-5k gil.
I have even found stuff below vendor value, but still more expensive since the retainer is in the wrong town so you get fee's on top lol.
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How is SE planning on making people actually make money later into the game when people got everything?
And how are we going to afford houses / free company houses if there is no real way of making gil?
Feels like you are helping the gil sellers by not giving any real way of making gil.

[UBERHAXED]

Problem is in a month max, the market board might be useless for selling stuff since people are already undercutting on items down to vendor price and undercutting on items that are not even selling yet by 1-5k gil.
I have even found stuff below vendor value, but still more expensive since the retainer is in the wrong town so you get fee's on top lol.
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How is SE planning on making people actually make money later into the game when people got everything?
And how are we going to afford houses / free company houses if there is no real way of making gil?
Feels like you are helping the gil sellers by not giving any real way of making gil.

Why would anyone buy above the vendor price? Your logic baffles me. Of course people have to undercut vendors or else they will never sell. Basic economics...

But anyway, In response to the thread, there is already a way of gil generation in the economy. Higher level DoH leves are (within time bounds) infinite and produce boundless amount of gil. What I don't understand about people in this thread is what they thought the purpose of the DoH was? Merchants are primary money makers, not adventurers and this was by intentional design. You cannot be self sufficient by just leveling a DoW, which is what people want. Unfortunately, that's not how life (or the system in the game) is. Different paradigms were generated for the purpose of being played. Otherwise, the development team would have wasted hundreds of hours designing DoH and DoL if they are never necessary for a player to become if they want to be sufficient over time.

[CaZx]

I can understand people saying that these people should just craft/gather in order to generate cash. That can work as a method for generating gil for the server (selling to NPC's) and as a way to make good money on the AH. However, I also understand the people who say they don't like crafting/gathering and they don't play an MMO to feel like they have a second job (outside of whatever they do in the real world to pay for their house..family..video game habits..ect).

Another point is this...whats the point of crafting to make money..if everyone else is required to craft also in order to play the game? If EVERYONE is running around as a lvl 50 crafter/gatherer than who the heck am I going to sell things to? Crafters should be able to craft and sell to a non-crafting community of people who choose to spend the majority of their time doing other things in the game.

[Inosaska]

I can understand people saying that these people should just craft/gather in order to generate cash. That can work as a method for generating gil for the server (selling to NPC's) and as a way to make good money on the AH. However, I also understand the people who say they don't like crafting/gathering and they don't play an MMO to feel like they have a second job (outside of whatever they do in the real world to pay for their house..family..video game habits..ect).

Another point is this...whats the point of crafting to make money..if everyone else is required to craft also in order to play the game? If EVERYONE is running around as a lvl 50 crafter/gatherer than who the heck am I going to sell things to? Crafters should be able to craft and sell to a non-crafting community of people who choose to spend the majority of their time doing other things in the game.

Ya this person is right on the money. People seem to be missing the point that people who want to just adventure should be able to gain money through just doing that but currently a dungeon run makes you lose more then what you get from it and that's very bad. Not everyone wants to craft/gather and they have to accommodate for that or else they will just lose those players later on when they start to see there money is just vanishing and they are not making anything to pay for the repair bills.

[Shmashed]

Why would anyone buy above the vendor price? Your logic baffles me. Of course people have to undercut vendors or else they will never sell. Basic economics

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What I don't understand about people in this thread is what they thought the purpose of the DoH was? Merchants are primary money makers, not adventurers and this was by intentional design. You cannot be self sufficient by just leveling a DoW, which is what people want. Unfortunately, that's not how life (or the system in the game) is

Vendor price = the price you can sell the item to a vendor. The term "vendoring" has been around, and even if its not clear, I'm uncertain how you can possibly not figured this one out.

As for the rest of your post. Yeah, sure. Thats what I want, a RL simulator. Sorry folks, I can't join your dungeon group. I work 8 hours in the coal mines every day to afford my weekend warrior habit.