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    Player
    Myrdyn_Wyldt's Avatar
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    Greeneyed Sue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orsnoire View Post
    The answer to this question, and the real elephant in the room, is that the game's biggest gil sink to date (i.e. housing) is getting introduced with patch 2.1, and VERY few have anywhere near the gil that's going to be required. That's why has those of use who have no real problems generating PERSONAL gil are alarmed: while we have enough to buy these gil sinks, it's going to dramatically hurt the economy and slow down the market boards when those gil sinks come online if something isn't fixed before that happens.

    I disagree. It does not matter to the average player whether you have 5 million gil in your bank account, or just spent 5 million gil on a new house; the money is not in circulation in either case.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The truth is that no one on these forums know the true balance of gil in vs gil out for the entire economy. Only SE has these numbers, and although they are not letting them out, it is in their best interest to maintain a proper, low inflationary balance. Since this is the case, then it really does not matter in the grand scheme of things how new the gil that is in any individual player's account is. If you don't want to make new gil, get the gil from other players, and don't worry about it.
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    danteafk's Avatar
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    Ed Elric
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    So I am nearly broke now. I ran Amdapor Keep over 100x by now. The repair costs for just this week have been over 60.000.

    I want to play the endgame and have fun, thus earning money while I do this so I can self-sustain.

    I do not want to Craft. I do not want to gather some silly materials or go fishing - thats not my thing. It is boring imo. I do not want to level another job to 50 just for the sake to gather Gil, which will be nontheless harder since there are barely any quests left and Id need to Fate-Grind.

    Why can`t you just sell items from Dungeons? In every other game you can sell/trade items from raids/dungeons in order to sustain.

    How am I supposed to survive, economically?
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    Kane Wyrmwood
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    Ultros
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    So I am nearly broke now. I ran Amdapor Keep over 100x by now. The repair costs for just this week have been over 60.000.

    I do not want to Craft. I do not want to gather some silly materials or go fishing - thats not my thing. It is boring imo. I do not want to level another job to 50 just for the sake to gather Gil,
    You're complaining because, while playing at absolute breakneck pace and deliberately ignoring gathering and crafting and farming, it's difficult to make money?

    Eesh, just dedicate 2% of the time you've spent in a single dungeon to making gil and you'll be fine. >_>
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    You're complaining because, while playing at absolute breakneck pace and deliberately ignoring gathering and crafting and farming, it's difficult to make money?

    Eesh, just dedicate 2% of the time you've spent in a single dungeon to making gil and you'll be fine. >_>
    Not a single thing you said has anything to do with this thread.
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    Kane Wyrmwood
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Not a single thing you said has anything to do with this thread.
    Sure it does: I'm indirectly saying that making gil is not as great a problem as some people seem to believe.
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    Ai Tachibana
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    You're complaining because, while playing at absolute breakneck pace and deliberately ignoring gathering and crafting and farming, it's difficult to make money?

    Eesh, just dedicate 2% of the time you've spent in a single dungeon to making gil and you'll be fine. >_>
    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Sure it does: I'm indirectly saying that making gil is not as great a problem as some people seem to believe.
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    gathering and crafting
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    gathering and crafting
    You have serious reading problems sir.


    oh btw, i vote for daily quest with gil as rewards.
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    Last edited by AiXIII; 09-08-2013 at 11:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danteafk View Post
    So I am nearly broke now. I ran Amdapor Keep over 100x by now. The repair costs for just this week have been over 60.000.

    I want to play the endgame and have fun, thus earning money while I do this so I can self-sustain.

    I do not want to Craft. I do not want to gather some silly materials or go fishing - thats not my thing. It is boring imo. I do not want to level another job to 50 just for the sake to gather Gil, which will be nontheless harder since there are barely any quests left and Id need to Fate-Grind.

    Why can`t you just sell items from Dungeons? In every other game you can sell/trade items from raids/dungeons in order to sustain.

    How am I supposed to survive, economically?
    without crafting or gathering, you aren't going to make any money. Stop trying to plow the game because that's why your broke. Idjit
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    Mysidia Baron
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    without crafting or gathering, you aren't going to make any money. Stop trying to plow the game because that's why your broke. Idjit
    And what, dear slow one, do you suppose will happen when you are crafting all these weapons for those "plowing the game" and they can't afford it because all the wealth has accumulated with the crafters and gatherers? Well, then you have to wait to sell anything because the people who "plow" will have to level crafts. Meanwhile, those who made money early will simply level their clearly-not-plowing characters and exchange money with each other.

    The people who chose to level "plow" classes will remain poor until the higher tiers while the people like you (who CLEARLY chose to play the right way because you're so great and always right) will continue to sit on large amounts of money. This ends in a picture we like to call stagnation.

    "Idjit."
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    Mocha Leporina
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by cainejw View Post
    And what, dear slow one, do you suppose will happen when you are crafting all these weapons for those "plowing the game" and they can't afford it because all the wealth has accumulated with the crafters and gatherers? Well, then you have to wait to sell anything because the people who "plow" will have to level crafts. Meanwhile, those who made money early will simply level their clearly-not-plowing characters and exchange money with each other.

    The people who chose to level "plow" classes will remain poor until the higher tiers while the people like you (who CLEARLY chose to play the right way because you're so great and always right) will continue to sit on large amounts of money. This ends in a picture we like to call stagnation.

    "Idjit."
    Fun fact: Those people "plowing the game" are the least lucrative market for us as they get all their gear normally via questing and dungeons. Our markets are generally like minded people - gear and tools for those leveling crafting and gathering professions, raw materials, materia, and items used in various quests. Thus, if the aforementioned demographic is broke....it doesn't really matter to us.

    At least that's been my experience, YMMV. I've made most of my market board gil from weaving clothes used by other DOL/DOH classes.
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    Kelg Granthal
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    Sargatanas
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    I want to play video games and have fun, i want someone to pay me to play video games all day so i can self-sustain.

    I do not want to get a job, i do not want to work, that's not my thing.
    How am I supposed to survive, economically?


    Just thought id throw that in there for real life comparison. you don't get to be CEO of a multinational conglomerate by not working or having qualifications.
    You seem to forget that if everybody took part in gathering/crafting they would not be a viable source of gil.
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