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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    You stated you find it a lack of creativity by having the job being a 'color', yet the actual names (Japanese) are a lot more description in what they are, the English and German names from what I've read are more based on appearance than a literal translation.
    I'm not going to respond to any fallacies since your example does not apply to this. I have played it now so I am in my right to make an opinion.
    A difference in translation from Japanese to English, German or French is not an excuse for such an uncreative name in my eyes. You can talk about this all day, but do you honestly think red mage or blue mage is the best names out their to define what the classes irrespectively from the game's history or decisions are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thsscks View Post
    I'm not going to respond to any fallacies since your example does not apply to this. I have played it now so I am in my right to make an opinion.
    A difference in translation from Japanese to English, German or French is not an excuse for such an uncreative name in my eyes. You can talk about this all day, but do you honestly think red mage or blue mage is the best names out their to define what the classes irrespectively from the game's history or decisions are.
    A difference in translation mean something though hence why the phrase "Lost in translation" exists. I already said their best names are their original names (Japanese), hence why in FFXIV it's even more generic than saying "Blue Mage" or "Red Mage", because even to people who don't play FF games they generally know what they are since FF isn't an obscure entity of a series.

    As for your other reply? If people are playing XIV just because it's another MMO but never played other FF games yet it's clearly a part of another series like how WoW was a part of the warcraft series? You'd kinda assume people would want to learn about things in the series since like XI it generally reference and nods to the entire series up to that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    ..because even to people who don't play FF games they generally know what they are since FF isn't an obscure entity of a series.
    Now you are just contradicting yourself.

    And for your other statement. It shouldn't be a requirement to do an in-depth study to know what a class is like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    WHAT THE..... Ok dude frist yoshi-p say he be adding red mage, white mage , black mage back to the game with the new class system Red mage and black mage and white mage does tell your job

    White mage = healer
    Red mage = Time mage,healer,warrior,black mage
    Black mage= DPS with Nukes

    So get out of here it wont be a final fantasy game without the names.
    Did you even reply to what I said? I wasn't talking about Final Fantasy in general and I think you are confusing the armory system with the upcoming job system.

    Is it so difficult to understand that outside of the whole Final Fanatasy world a name such as blue mage doesnt mean anything, aside from the fact that it is a mage? They might as well name it mage 1, mage 2, mage 3, etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thsscks View Post
    Now you are just contradicting yourself.

    And for your other statement. It shouldn't be a requirement to do an in-depth study to know what a class is like.
    Not really because FF isn't an obscure game series and is referenced everywhere, therefore in general people know that white mage tends to be a healer and black mage tends to be a nuker but you generally have to learn more to know more like with anything else in the world, and if someone is going to play an entry to a series especially without playing the games prior to it, you'd assume you'd want to learn about the series you're starting to play, just like you'd assume people to learn terminology and the like if someone were to play Mass Effect for the first time but started with 3 rather than 1.

    Is it so difficult to understand that outside of the whole Final Fanatasy world
    Nope because outside of the FF world they mean nothing, but we are talking about Final Fantasy XIV, are we not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Not really because FF isn't an obscure game series and is referenced everywhere, therefore in general people know that white mage tends to be a healer and black mage tends to be a nuker but you generally have to learn more to know more like with anything else in the world, and if someone is going to play an entry to a series especially without playing the games..
    Now your just making an assumption. There are a lot more games out their than the FF series, if you like it or not. People don't have to know anything about it beforehand just because it's there and successful.


    Nope because outside of the FF world they mean nothing, but we are talking about Final Fantasy XIV, are we not?
    Look at it this way if you are making a mmorpg you want to be open to the general gaming public not just Final Fantasy series playerbase. And good communication is vital in that part. For example in the SWTOR they didnt name Jedi Knights blue lightsaber jedi or jedi consulars green lightsaber jedi. Since the colour of the lightsaber doesn't add much meaning to the playingstyle you are going to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thsscks View Post
    Now your just making an assumption. There are a lot more games out their than the FF series, if you like it or not. People don't have to know anything about it beforehand just because it's there and successful.



    Look at it this way if you are making a mmorpg you want to be open to the general gaming public not just Final Fantasy series playerbase. And good communication is vital in that part. For example in the SWTOR they didnt name Jedi Knights blue lightsaber jedi or jedi consulars green lightsaber jedi. Since the colour of the lightsaber doesn't add much meaning to the playingstyle you are going to get.
    No, They named them Jedi Knights and Jedi Consulars because thats the LORE OF THE FRANCHISE. LOLS BRILLIANT CONCEPT
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.