This is the reason I do not play summoner. I mainly played summoner in FFXI. But the summons in FFXIV just look pathetic.
This is the reason I do not play summoner. I mainly played summoner in FFXI. But the summons in FFXIV just look pathetic.
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im curious if they did it this way so that they could add another 'form' to the egi later, maybe in an expansion



Amazing how many people are not even willing to give the concept a chance.
I was skeptical, sure... that is, until I earned Ifrit Egi, but now that I have Titan Egi too? I applaud SE for how they were implemented in the class quests.
Don't knock it til you've tried it.
Summoner in this game plays exactly like a Affliction warlock from WoW. I was expecting more emphasis on the summon not the summoner
Oh and when you do the last quest for summoner you can see the diference between the size of your pet and what it suppose to be![]()

I don't even care about being a DoT caster. But come on, these egis are just kindergarten stuff. I wanted a freaking avatar of destruction, not a impish red thing, or whatever that floating popcorn is. Come on guys. You can't be serious about liking these designs... Their dps and AI/Management should definetly get an overhaul, and their sizes, freaking scaled, at the very least.
Perhaps making enkindle make then take their real primal form for an amazing flashy attack. That's is the least I expect in future patches.
I 100% completely agree with the OP. I never got far into ff11 to see summoners as I was young back then and did not have time to grind and play too long. But now that i have my own rig and mmo experience i was excited to play a summoner. When i heard i could summon ifrit, titan, and garuda I had high hopes. But then i saw what we were really summoning... I am now very let down. When carbuncle is bigger than ifrit and titan i believe we have a problem. These summons are not flattering at all nor impressive. I don't want to be a dot casting warlock i just want my summons, my REAL summons. If i wanted floating fairies i would role a scholar, which is probably what I'm going to end up doing
Yeah, as SMN is currently at the bottom of the DPS barrel, let's give up completely on the DPS wild goose chase and let us have a giganormously huge avatar.
And to prevent screen being overridden by the avatar moving, let just have them stay on the side doing nothing but cheer at us sometimes.
That would help our enjoyment greatly.
I could unlock a 50 SMN but in all honesty I'm so disappointed with the size of the avatar I wont even bother. The avatars IMO should atleast be of equal size as large Roegadyn. Anything else and no thanks. As pety as that may be I'll just chose to not play it. To tell you the truth I just ignore the fact its even in game.
My Final Heaven
Thanks for giving me a good laugh and remember that this version of Final Fantasy is WoWified. You are not really playing a summoner, you are playing a WoW Warlock class.Ive been playing Final Fantasy games since I was very young and I remember the "epicness" of the summons in FF8 where Ifrit would drop down from the sky and your playstation controller would vibrate, really gave you a sense of how powerful summons were. In FFX Yuna and Seymour summoned huge creatures practically 10 times their size, on Yuna's Ifrit aeon she could sit on his shoulder, really gave you a feel for how big and how powerful your character had to be to tame such a creature. In FFXI I remember summoning titan and other summons and they were at least 3-4 times bigger than your character which was great, I felt like a summoner. Here we are in FFXIV and I feel as if my character went out in the backyard and put a leash and collar on a squirrel.
All these WoW kiddies.... you know before Affliction Warlocks there were these things called Necromancers..... They were in games and had these game mechanics before WoW.
Yes, Summoner plays like a necromancer from the older days more than a summoner from FFXI, but I still find it fun. I do wish that the avatars for the "egi" were better, but if that was a sacrifice they had to make to reduce lag then I'm ok with that. Too many games lag to hell in the type of events this game handles almost flawlessly. I miss my summons from FFXI... especially Fenrir, but I will probably just have to make due with these.
Also... unless I just don't remember. In FFXI I seem to remember SMNs healing the majority of the time and rarely using their summons except for a few key abilities and then you would un-summon them. At least in FFXIV we can keep them out without worrying about mana drain.
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