Summoner rodent sized pet??

[Darkes94]

Those people are the WoW fanboys that have never played any of the FF games what i was thinking summoner was going to be was a class that you have some skills but you would be mostly backed up by the primals or at the very least Summon them out to use a 1 attack skill then leave Diamond Dust,Hellfire, Doomtrain ext not this whole lets make a DoT class and add pets that dont deal that much damage and call it Summoner and lets see how long it will take people to get mad.

[anavel0]

Those people are the WoW fanboys that have never played any of the FF games what i was thinking summoner was going to be was a class that you have some skills but you would be mostly backed up by the primals or at the very least Summon them out to use a 1 attack skill then leave Diamond Dust,Hellfire, Doomtrain ext not this whole lets make a DoT class and add pets that dont deal that much damage and call it Summoner and lets see how long it will take people to get mad.

Seriously! Why as a Summoner am I casting diseases like a freaking WoW warlock? That doesn't even make sense!

[Tith]

Seriously! Why as a Summoner am I casting diseases like a freaking WoW warlock? That doesn't even make sense!

You are a wow warlock, it's very clearly the template SE used when designing the Summoner class. They did there own thing with it, but they were obviously eyeballing the Warlock Party Role.

[Nexxa]

This is why I play a black mage. I would of played a summoner if I felt like one. I'm not asking for full sized primals but maybe something, at least, as big as my character or mount.

[Umbral]

The posts on this forum about summoner are hilarious. People come to the forums to cry about something they know next to nothing about. So much QQ about models and the design for summoner with no regard for game design and balance.

So you don't like the looks of the egis but with the inception of fates and high player volume in a smaller area you simply cannot have what players are asking. Look at guild wars 2 and you will see why too much affects/screen clutter can be terrible. It's not a matter of what you may have thought the summoner was going be at release it's a matter of smart game design. Also, it's a character model. Whether you like it or not it's not game breaking and not worth all the QQ on the forums. You always have to be thinking how would this change affect every aspect of the game. Right now with the volume of players I applaud the developers for their bold choice in models

[Korvaene]

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The point you mentioned about Fates is probably why SE will never fix the summoner's avatars. It's sad, really. It sounds like you're not an FF fan, but as an FF fan that loves the summoner and black mage classes, let me tell you, what they have done to the summoner class is nothing short of heresy to fans. I would gladly accept a slower, more finely tuned team-work focused combat system like in FFXI, or remove Fates entirely, than see the over-rated light show that the Fates are now. Thus possibly allowing SMN to have better-looking avatars.

[Darkes94]

The posts on this forum about summoner are hilarious. People come to the forums to cry about something they know next to nothing about. So much QQ about models and the design for summoner with no regard for game design and balance.

So you don't like the looks of the egis but with the inception of fates and high player volume in a smaller area you simply cannot have what players are asking. Look at guild wars 2 and you will see why too much affects/screen clutter can be terrible. It's not a matter of what you may have thought the summoner was going be at release it's a matter of smart game design. Also, it's a character model. Whether you like it or not it's not game breaking and not worth all the QQ on the forums.

Here read this and learn what a summoner is ment to be http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Summoner

[Umbral]

Yeah I am absolutely a FF fan. Ive been with FF for a long time in my gaming career. The nostalgic feeling I get from playing this is great but it takes a really close minded person to acknowledge that the game mechanics and MMO setting dont allow for anything other than what is already implemented and still QQ on the forums about it.

It just goes to show the people who cry about this are inexperienced MMO players, or are just blinded by the QQ tears they cant see obvious facts.
Dont give me the argument that FFXI had big summons because that was a game that came out almost 10 years ago (not sure the exact time) and the system requirements, gameplay, graphics engine, and so much more has changed dramatically. Remember when gas prices were so low? QQ why cant we just make everything like the olden days. Stop living in some world where a FFwiki tells you how a class should play. Reroll you make the rest of us look like babies.

[KingBerry]

Yeah I am absolutely a FF fan. Ive been with FF for a long time in my gaming career. The nostalgic feeling I get from playing this is great but it takes a really close minded person to acknowledge that the game mechanics and MMO setting dont allow for anything other than what is already implemented and still QQ on the forums about it.

It just goes to show the people who cry about this are inexperienced WoW players

Fixed it for you.

[Korvaene]

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Calling people with their own ideas and perspectives "close minded" and "babies" is not how you share opinions and ideas. Not to mention calling people with different views from yourself "inexperienced". Also, nothing you have stated is an "obvious fact". The only obvious thing here is that you are coming across as very childish. The argument that FFXI had visually superior summons is definitely valid. Yes, that game is 10 years old. We now have newer, better, faster technology. FFXIV's graphics engine is superior to FFXI. If FFXI's old engine could handle it, then FFXIV's engine can certainly do it better. Also, comparing the increase in gas prices to technology performance is just ludicrous.