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    HoroBoro's Avatar
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    Marisa Kirisame
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 55

    The attitude certain tanks have....

    Doing cutters. One person is new. Party wipes 1 time on first boss. Downs it. Party wipes 1 time on 2nd boss.

    Tank rage quits.

    I understand if we wipe multiple times on the same boss. If we somehow did something wrong like run ahead. Or if we insulted you in anyway.

    However, when you have such poor armor that healer runs out of MP, when when a Black Mage 1 level lower than you can pull aggro and has to stop in the middle of the rotation so you can catch up, and when everyone is acting very nice towards you... and doesn't say anything about your tanking, you don't get to just leave without saying a word leaving 3 people hanging on the queue for 20 mins.

    Never-mind I guess you do... I wish there was a Duty Finder blacklist.
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    Luda Kusunoki
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    Gungnir
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    They are holier than thou.

    But a lot of people don't have patience, and think everything should be perfect all the time, which i don't understand with the game being so new, there is going to be a lot of new players that need schooling!
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    Sorcha Busujima
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 42
    The problem is you got primadonna tanks from WoW and other MMO's where they get a trillion emnity just by being there basically. On the flip side you also have DDs that think they can just unleash hell even before the tank is up there, Healers that think they can just area heal everything. People need to realize that this game works differently.
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    cfStatic's Avatar
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    Reyka Skyyguarde
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadInkPen View Post
    The problem is you got primadonna tanks from WoW and other MMO's where they get a trillion emnity just by being there basically. On the flip side you also have DDs that think they can just unleash hell even before the tank is up there, Healers that think they can just area heal everything. People need to realize that this game works differently.
    It doesn't 'work differently'. Tank uses threat generating mechanic, DPS focus tanks target or risk pulling aggro(or do, in some cases - looking at you SMN), healer heals tank and throws heals around as needed. AoE threat generation as a tank is a joke though, and trying to catch up in threat on more than one add that spawns in the middle of a fight will, depending on how good your DPS are at killing stuff, make you lose aggro on the stuff your DPS is killing.
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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 71
    At the end of the day, people don't like to be wrong. I'm very apologetic when i screw up usually - I try to do my role to the best of my ability and to master it. But even then occasionally I make a bad choice things go tits up, someone chews me out for it and my first instinct is to get defensive even though I know that they are right.

    It depends whether people get confrotnational about it, or whether you have that touch of self criticality so you are your own critic. A lot of rage quits i think are generated by people being loudly critical or outright offensive, instead of remaining calm, analytical and carrying on with a modified plan.
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    Thomas Edgehill
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 20
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    At the end of the day, people don't like to be wrong. I'm very apologetic when i screw up usually - I try to do my role to the best of my ability and to master it. But even then occasionally I make a bad choice things go tits up, someone chews me out for it and my first instinct is to get defensive even though I know that they are right.

    It depends whether people get confrotnational about it, or whether you have that touch of self criticality so you are your own critic. A lot of rage quits i think are generated by people being loudly critical or outright offensive, instead of remaining calm, analytical and carrying on with a modified plan.
    No one should be treating you that way regardless if you mess up or not, this is a game, and this goes for anyone else, no one should be treated that way.
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    Uriah Nool
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As someone new to tanking I would appreciate it if people offered me advice and helped me out during battles. A lot of dungeons have bosses that I do not know the techniques well, and I don't like people assuming I know what I am doing right away because I am the tank. I understand that as the tank I am the "leader" role and should be the first one rushing into battles and keeping all the enemy hate, but if there is something I need to be doing - don't get mad at me for not doing it, let me know. Take the time before or during the dungeons to discuss a strategy. I don't automatically know the best place to stand when pulling the boss, or when I should kite or focus on adds. If we rush in without a plan and die very quickly - and nobody is helping with a strategy or knows what they're doing - then yes, i'll leave the party because I don't want to damage all my gear and keep wasting my time.

    /endrant
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    "There's a time when a man needs to fight, and a time when he needs to accept that his destiny is lost, that the ship has sailed, and that only a fool would continue. The truth is, I've always been a fool."

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    Nuala Moray
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 46
    Quote Originally Posted by Uriahnool View Post
    As someone new to tanking I would appreciate it if people offered me advice and helped me out during battles. *snip*
    I certainly count myself as no expert, but if I notice that the tank could be doing something different/better that might help with enmity, I usually try to offer up advice in as kind a way as possible. The only difficult thing with this is that no one can read tone in text, so if someone reads it as me being a know-it-all, talking them down, or something derisive/condescending, it's hard to recover from that. So I try to avoid it unless I think it will definitely help, and I also watch the tank to see if he/she is doing something that I could stand to learn from. It's definitely a two-way street, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minihalcyon
    "All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

    These evil people know this, so they try to discourage you to "do nothing" by saying "deal with it," or "be a man." The more you know.

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    Az Gardey
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 71
    Sometimes, communication is your friend. I often want to give tank advices, but rarely will they listen to their healer. Or worst, some of them just don't answer at all. They get in the dungeon, start pulling, die because they obviously had no idea on what's happening, then blame everyone else...

    But yeah, it's one in a hundred. So no big deal, most of the time, people aren't jerks. You really just have to communicate with each other.
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