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Thread: Why only FATES?

  1. #51
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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    Levequest xp needs to be AT least x10d, it's seriously pathetic atm I can solo grind 3 shot 5 mobs and get the same xp of a levequest. Worthless. Dungeon xp needs to be at least x3d, it's also horrid and probably why 95% of people do a dungeon to get through story and never do it again, talk about tons of wasted development time. Grind xp needs to be at least x3d, it's god awful compared to the 45 seconds at a FATE I can get 25k xp. Fate xp needs to be reduced to about 20% of its current. You get money, MASSIVE xp, and tickets from fates, a triple reward for 0 effort, 0 coordination, 0 skill just tab button mash. Worst system, evar.
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    Tiam Warren
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    Marauder Lv 70
    My highest class is only 26 oder 27 but I started worrying about leveling up other classes around lv 15 which is when I stopped doing any quests. I consider Arcanist my main and I only follow the story line, I leveled up Lancer by fates/dungeons/hunting log alone (saving Leve for my crafters), as Arcanist I'll need THM and CNJ as well, so no questing for Lancer either. CNJ is already 18, I plan on not leveling higher than 34 (blah) and hopefully easiest for him will be dungeons since they insta-pop for healers, as for THM ah hell, I hate THM so I'm saving all the quests for him to get to 26 as fast as possible. As I'm enjoying Lancer a lot, too, I guess I'll have to level PUG for some cross-class stuff lol...I'm not even past 30 and already it feels like a grind XD worries worries... Do I even wanna know how it is past 40. You're all scarying me.
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    Last edited by Rgbg; 09-09-2013 at 06:26 PM.

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    Krisan Thyme
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I dunno why people think grinding isn't viable at all.. I've been in grind parties that did FATE's on the side, and leveling was infinitely faster than just waiting on FATE's to pop. In Northern Thanalan you can get 40k+ exp just off grinding alone between almost every FATE there.. And some of those FATE's will pop right on top of the best grinding spots! This is viable in almost any zone at any level range, people just.. don't do it.
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    Kit Cat
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    Yeah. I decided last night I'm going to have to avoid FATE grinding. After doing it for two on an alt class I felt really burnt out and didn't feel excited to play anymore. Luckily after sleeping and waking up to the event (Which I had all the ash for already ) I don't feel so off-put.

    I think I'll just leave them as random things I can run for if I'm close. Unfortunately that will make leveling terribly slow since DPS queue is so long, but oh well. At least I'll keep enjoying the game.
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    Dungeons are fairly poor for leveling, between having to queue up and the general length of them compared to reward.. they're kinda not worth it for anything other than completing quests and logs. Standard grinding though, is highly underrated! A good group of 8 people can cause massive havoc together, and if you find a good spot you can rake in the EXP very quickly. The only problem I see with normal grinding is that it ultimately has a higher repair cost, due to the fact damage is more evenly distributed between people. (FATE's keep repair costs generally low, unless you're tanking things. Which never happens unless it's a FATE boss.)
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    Zoot Zoot
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    Buffing the XP from Dungeons would have numerous benefits.

    It would give players an alternative leveling option that isn't zerg based and requires more skill.
    It would mean more people running the Duty Finder and thus less wait times for everyone.
    It would give players more options to master their Job ina group environment instead of spamming their fastest attack ad nauseam.

    FATES should have been designed to scale based on the number of people in the area and tags for FATES shouldn't be limited to the Party or player that tagged the mob. If they were more like the Rift's in Rift or the PQ's in WAR they would be much less soul crushing. IMO.
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    Monk Lv 90

    RIP people who love story and rpgs

    this is the greatest truth from our generation. They dont even read the quest and when i say i do they abuse me :/
    Quote Originally Posted by TasOgie View Post
    People dont care about the game, they jsut want to hit 50 fast as possible. I swear you could put a NPC in a round room, with a credit card system an buy level 50 an they would flock to it.

    On my server there are whole zones of nothing but spam "fate this an fate that groups".... nothing els is ever said. God help you if you ever make a comment on how idiotic it is cos then 50 people start abusing you lol.It is sad because the game is great fun an the so called level 50s have not seen any of it. They dont care about anything but how fast they can get xp.
    I get called a noob an all sorts I think I am level 29 today an just dont care. I potter about craft, explore kill grind quest, whatever I feel like or whatever is in front of me. An yet they call me strange lol

    Welcome to todays generation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shonie View Post
    Why does EVERYTHING else need to be increased?
    Just nerf XP gain from FATES. They clearly weren't designed to be mobzerged.
    Another thing I'm wondering... after seeing this thread and Amdapor speed run thread... what exactly is everyone's hurry?
    There is no other way to level your 2nd+ class ecxpet leves/dungeons/fates pretty much and it takes a long time to grind fates either way. Unless you are a neckbeard living in your moms basement with no job or life, grinding fates is about the only way to level at any reasonable speed. And I can't find it now but Yoshi already said these are working as intended, to level alt classes and they are going to leave them as is. This game is about the story and end game not about spending years leveling alt classes.

    I hate grinding fates, they need to increase exp gaines in dungeons and battleleves to make it the same as fates and people will do different things. Why do a 45 minute dungeon run for 1/4 of a level when I can get almost a full level in that time grinding fates.
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    Last edited by Ruprect; 09-09-2013 at 11:00 PM.

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    Do your leves in a group and your xp will fly up. Trust me
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