Why only FATES?

[Inarie]

After you have used up all the quests, you do hunting logs, grind Fates, do dungeons, do leve's, or grind mobs. I do a healthy mix of Leve's, hunting logs and Fates. Dungeons I will do the first time or with friends. But, just grinding them to get xp is completely not worth it, the amount of time compared to the amount of xp you get is terrible.

I think the problem in EVERY game is that if there is a preferred way of doing something, then people start calling for nerfs. Why would you want a nerf on something, just because others prefer it? You want to pigeon hole those people who prefer that option, in to doing what YOU prefer doing? Why not make dungeons worth more xp, or make leve's give more xp? No, no, its just nerf Fates.

I think they put in Fates just for this very thing. They figured "Hey! We have all the other options, so lets throw this in there as well, more options is always better!" Stop calling for nerfs just because you dont prefer to level this way, others do.

[Warlyx]

avoid FATE while leveling your 2nd / 3th class , u will be grinding for days , and u gonna need to lvl subclasses for crossclass skills, all casters need BLM at 26 for the instant spell , bard and monk need DRG for blood for blood and invigorate....and so on....

w/o fates how are u supposed to level ? tell me....because leves are finite and the huntin log give u at most 1 or 2 lvls , then what?

[StrangerousDangerous]

Every game this is an issue.

People wish the stuff they thought was fun was better XP, because they are forced to do the best xp stuff.


Im sorry...what?

Your choosing to play a game in a manner that is unfun for you because it will let you bypass the content of the game faster?

Game is already fast enough leveling, we don't need to buff everything under the sun here. If you find FATES boring don't do them.

Sometimes ill use the fate trains for padding out a level, or for seals....but I certainly don't do the norm which is ignore everything else and getting into a FATE mob and use that as the only way to progress...it gets boring. So I do other stuff to make the game more enjoyable.

IDGAF if my choice to play for entertainment means I reach endgame two whole days later than you.

And no, im not bothered by other people playing the game differently from me. Let the fate train folk keep doing what they are doing...just don't complain about it.

[Sparthos]

Make EXP parties worth it. Fast battles on trash mobs in the overworld.

[StrangerousDangerous]

Make EXP parties worth it. Fast battles on trash mobs in the overworld.

I think if they did the FC battle cry XP bonus right that could be a possibility.

I wouldn't mind seeing the battle cry XP bonus bumped up a bit, and then put a few open world dungeons into the game so you could FC farm there.

Im all for options, even if I don't care on maximizing leveling since its fast enough as it is just doing quests and the occasional FATE farm.

[Balzaque]

i agree with this, after you finish your story quests you kinda have no other option to lvl up other then fates. they give just too much experience in comparison to anything else.

to be honest what i would like to see would be to be able to do my quests again in a different class >.< a lot more fun leveling doing quests then grinding fates and leves are just too slow in comparison to our normal quests for some reason..

i only leveled my second class to lvl 15 and after its starter quests ended, even for just 2 levels, it was incredible slow and boring until i decided to do a couple of fates and be done with it, cant even imagine how painful it will be if i really want to get it higher..

[Rillifane]

I could be mistaken on this, but didn't a bunch of JP players find out you get better xp/hr by chain pulling mobs a lot higher level than you while in a full 8 man group? I seem to remember something about that as people were posting within a day or 2 of early access that some JP players were running around with 43+ sch and smns.

[HumsterMKX]

I could be mistaken on this, but didn't a bunch of JP players find out you get better xp/hr by chain pulling mobs a lot higher level than you while in a full 8 man group? I seem to remember something about that as people were posting within a day or 2 of early access that some JP players were running around with 43+ sch and smns.

They did, multi level 50 after the 3rd day. But 90% not doing it probably due to the large amount of exp we get at the end of each FATE.

No need to form a pt, No visiable dangers due to zergfest, lastly, dont need to pull mobs. Just randomly hit stuff, FATE POPS go with the crowd, profit.

Should have followed the crowd. But instead I did NPC quest and leves. Till the late 30s. Took me less then 12 hours playtime to get to 50.

[moeru]

technically wouldn't having levs that only give gil as a reward both help the economy and put a damper on the rmt's? i meen if people can make enough gil from levs alone and i dont meen the first time accomplishment from guildhests. but wouldent that make it worthwhile for people who gather and craft? because some people dont have a ez time makeing money and some dont have alot of time to craft or gather?

[rution19]

I come from old school parties, where you grind in one area forever. I truly enjoyed the whole process of getting friends together and shooting the shit for 4-5 hour (maybe going to a few camps) and exping. Trying out new WS, playing w/ gear and macros, taking the time to learn the job. I know this is a modern MMO and I'm not QQing the whole process of xping through FATEs we all need to evolve. I have just not seen much fun in a flurry of light and spamming w/e skill to get a ton of xp. Ill do it because this is the way the game was designed, but I don't have to like it. I really don't know the solution to fix FATEs or even if they need to be fixed.

But would it be so bad to have a place or areas xp for partying? Then we can choose. It would be too difficult to balance to the over-all world, but imagine a skirmish type area where you can go to hunt big game in small 4-6 man parties where grinding would be substantial. It would come at a cost; let's say you would have to use GC points to enter. /shrug