Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Peanutbutter]

Hello. We have a player on our server (Ultros) who has DD on a timer. They (and their buddies) are level 50 players with relic weapons and AF+2 gear, and they seem to come back to North Thanalan right before it spawns each time and proclaim in /shout they will end DD in 30 seconds if either they aren't invited to a party or someone pays them 20k gil. Now that we know DD is working as intended, can players like this be banned simply for the fact that they are doing this to grief others into accepting their proposals?

Wow what jerks. Blackmailing players because they are 50. I think that sucks in the worse way, I think maybe they should put it on random spawner so they do not know what time?...have no idea how this can be fixed seems there are not enough GM's in the game to even check this out while it is happening.

[Kraun]

What baffles me is why someone would QQ about getting fast XP or levels in the first place?
How is "your" problem if someone levels fast? It doesn't affect your gameplay in any way.
Concentrate on your own gameplay and leave others to do what they will.

[Tiraelina]

What baffles me is why someone would QQ about getting fast XP or levels in the first place?
How is "your" problem if someone levels fast? It doesn't affect your gameplay in any way.
Concentrate on your own gameplay and leave others to do what they will.

Do you even MMO?

Anyone with this mindset should be restricted to single player games.

[silentwindfr]

What baffles me is why someone would QQ about getting fast XP or levels in the first place?
How is "your" problem if someone levels fast? It doesn't affect your gameplay in any way.
Concentrate on your own gameplay and leave others to do what they will.

that a perfect example of what happend in the community of the mmo, in general, this last few years... people want all fast! they don't want to spend time to learn how to play them class or anything else, they simply want to be to the top... they will use any means possible and will don't care of what the other do... nor they will care of the mmorpg they are playing into.

more important @Camate, the complain about dark device can be said for any fate of this type. is not logical, nor normal, to allows a gain of exp that violent for 10-13 minutes. worst people come there from level 40 even lower now...

[Shaone]

Anyone who deliberately ends DD early just to get seals, in my personal opinion, is very selfish. Of course, there's alot more to it than that, the struggle of the individual vs community is an ongoing battle throughout the course of history, and it's important to stand up for individual rights.

In this situation though (few seals for individual vs 100-200k less exp multiplied by the number of people present who want primarily experience)... well... whatever, as long as you get yours, right?

[silentwindfr]

another point about the trouble that can make a point.
level 51 ask 562.000 exp, meaning that with this in 1 hours you can get your 51....
let's say you get 200.000 exp from this +the three reward from the series around 50-60k exp.
the FATE repop after 45 minute in this time you get enough exp from the other fate for do at least 100.000 exp... meaning you can get your level 51 in 1 hours... i think is not normal. you can't say this work as intended with this sort of exp gained soo fast.

nothing can beat this ratio exp/time.... impossible!

[Shaone]

nothing can beat this ratio exp/time.... impossible!

200k is an unusually high amount of XP, realistically most people won't get that, and it's dependent on so many factors, the most important one being player cooperation (grouping up to maximise claim and letting it run it's course rather than ending it early).

Players working together to maximise XP gain sounds pretty normal to me.

Even if it was the case that you could get 200k each and every time, does 3 hours instead of 1 to gain a level really make a difference?

[silentwindfr]

even if it's an unusually high amount, it's still possible to get it and is a trouble to get 1/3 of a level (1/2 for some level) from 12-13 minute of gaming is not normal at this level.
how you want to balance the exp at this range of level if it's possible to simply crush the ratio exp/time from any other content.

and the more important, it's in the 40-50 level that your class change the most.

[JadeDragonMeli]

I have not taken part in this FATE, as I normally don't FATE grind at all. If I see one on the way to a quest/hunting log mob I will do it, but that's pretty much it.

As a result my friends who have all done this FATE have multiple classes at 50. Doesn't bother me at all.

That's the thing about MMO's, you can pretty much do what you want in an open world enviroment. Don't like it? Don't do it. There's no reason to tell the rest of the players that they are wrong for doing it.

[silentwindfr]

personally i don't say people mustn't do it, i point a flaw in the game mechanic, that quite different.