Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Ryihito]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

Winner!

/10chdfgh

[silentwindfr]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

then you are saying us, that the monster here was placed for respawn twice as fast as normal monster, that people can get up to 200.000 exp by killing them when the part of this fate reward is about 10-15k exp. and all of this seems normal?
the fact to maintain a chain without stop is normal too?
the fact that this fate create rift into the community is normal too then?
without being offending, i think they need to rethink a bit this and more important to do some intern testing for see the insane exp possible to get from there.

ps: yeah is possible to get 200.000 exp from this and even more ^^.

[Esmian]

then you are saying us, that the monster here was placed for respawn twice as fast as normal monster, that people can get up to 200.000 exp by killing them when the part of this fate reward is about 10-15k exp. and all of this seems normal?
the fact to maintain a chain without stop is normal too?

Isn't this basically like the XP chains for parties in 1.0(and I guess FFXI though I didn't play it)? I thought the point was to keep chaining mobs and killing them to maximize experience. DD and others like it always just seemed like a very fast version of a normal mob grinding party.

[Tiraelina]

If you don't want to RUSH RUSH RUSH, you're free not to do it.

There's this little thing called reality. That everything in an MMO is linked to other parts of it.

When everyone can burn through levels on select FATE's. It's bad for the rest of the game. Especially the economy, crafters and gatherers.

FATE's don't exist in a bubble.

"you're free not to do it" doesn't fly in anything but a single player game.

Isn't this basically like the XP chains for parties in 1.0(and I guess FFXI though I didn't play it)? I thought the point was to keep chaining mobs and killing them to maximize experience. DD and others like it always just seemed like a very fast version of a normal mob grinding party.

Every word from SE about grinding parties in XIV during Alpha and Beta was "No". They told everyone to do dungeons if they wanted to group and the amount of players in FATE's would thin out. Which is why they never changed the scaling, the only reason FATE trains even work is because everything can just be overpowered with numbers.

Everyone that's trying to mock others for assuming is a joke because of that. This flies in the face of everything they've said previously.

[silentwindfr]

xp chain party was forced to stop at a moment, because of the mana or the repop of the monster. here both are not a problem, take the blm, they are infinte mana since they use ice 2. and since the monster repop until the end of the fate is possible to continue the chain as long that the fate going on.
and that where the problem lie, the pop is way too fast. if the pop was normal it's will not be a trouble... here the monster repop way too fast. more important only a couple of class can get exp from this.
be a drg, mnk, pld, mrd and you will get no exp from this, mostly because them AoE cost way too much for be used in chain too long. (or deal enough for get credit)

i know some people that was getting 230.000 exp from this one is far too much when you think that the level 49-50 ask you for 500.000 exp it's a trouble a huge one!

ps: i will not go as far to say is an exploit, but it's a huge flaw in the mechanic of this fate (and is not the only one) when a fate can give you more of 1/3 of your level for 12-13 minute of play you have a trouble and ignore it is not good.

[tnkw]

exploit? No
bad design? Yes
Not complete objective? No
Maximize your gain from DD Fate? Yes

The objective of the DD Fate is to kill the Lambs with in the time frame. You can kill them in 1 min or you can leave them until the last 30 sec.

[silentwindfr]

no the objective is to secure the hostage, killing the lamb are a means not the goal.

[CrimsonJenn]

Was never a contest, tho as i said before if this is the stance and direction they want to take fates there is really nothing i can argue against it. All i can honestly hope for is that future content is better designed. I'm glad i could finally get a developer to post here tho, at least it clears up many of the vague misconceptions from the live letter response.

[Laryndra]

AHAHAHAHAHA...Oh.. oh.. AHAHAHA.. "DEVS SAID THIS IS AN EXPLOIT!".. Mod logs on "NOT AN EXPLOIT!"... AHAHAHA

[CrimsonJenn]

I graciously bow my head, I was wrong my misconceived notion from the live letter on their stance about it lead to me saying something that wasn't true. I'm not afraid to admit when I have been proven wrong.