Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Unaki]

While I do agree that this exploitation is doing more harm than good, it's sadly the only choice we have at one point.

Eventually you'll run out of quests to do and will be left with nothing to do but FATE's, Dungeons or Leves and the former 2 give very poor experience for the time they take.

Its not your only choice. It isn't like you are locked out of dungeons you are over-leveled for. What are you gonna do if FATE experience is nerfed?

[VidulaSaix]

Its not your only choice. It isn't like you are locked out of dungeons you are over-leveled for. What are you gonna do if FATE experience is nerfed?

That's exactly my point. For the time that Dungeons take, the experience gain for the time requires just isn't worth it.

People are only grinding these FATE's because they're the only efficient method of gaining exp once you run out of quests.

[Unaki]

That's exactly my point. For the time that Dungeons take, the experience gain for the time requires just isn't worth it.

People are only grinding these FATE's because they're the only efficient method of gaining exp once you run out of quests.

To tell you the truth, level off FATEs all you want, if its fast levels for you then be my guest. You are the one who will be shunned and ridiculed because you only know how to cast Blizzard in Palace or Keep. That is how I feel about it, but back on topic, getting your panties in a wad over someone completing the objective and reporting them or issuing death threats is taking it too far.

[SirMilton]

Completing fates in the normal and intended manner still nets very fast experience points gains. It's many times faster than 1.0 experience points parties were. There is no reason to farm Dark Designs like this. Exploiting Dark Designs can grant between 100 and 150 thousand experience points within a 15 minute timeframe. It is effectively ruining the game. Not so much by allowing some players (the ones who farm parties, monopolize the mobs as they spawn, and rabidly, hatefully shout down anyone who tries to complete the FATE normally) to level much faster than others, which it does, but by creating contention and drama amongst the playerbase.

[TheWitcher]

I like how im "blacklisted" by some random players for killing the lambs to complete the fate, good job blacklisting a competent healer/tank player just because i gave you XP faster, since no one knows how to do the exploit properly anyway

[Laiyenu]

Instead of crying about DD perhaps real exploits should be first?

http://youtu.be/Y7h8wzvga3o

[wingofbenu]

To tell you the truth, level off FATEs all you want, if its fast levels for you then be my guest. You are the one who will be shunned and ridiculed because you only know how to cast Blizzard in Palace or Keep. That is how I feel about it, but back on topic, getting your panties in a wad over someone completing the objective and reporting them or issuing death threats is taking it too far.

oh please. It takes maybe 5 minutes to look up a proper rotation on the forums. Thats hardly a barrier to me deciding I'm better off hitting up dark devices than bothering to take 2-3+ weeks to grind up archer to cap

[Kagato]

Whatever happened to freedom and choice?

If people want to farm EXP on enemies before completing the quest, they are perfectly allowed to.

If people want to ruin everyone else's fun by completing the FATE earlier than what the masses prefer, they're also allowed to.

Everyone has the freedom to do whatever they want do do. The catch is, one of these choices is going to get a person blacklisted by an entire zone all at once. The other is going to make you and everyone else happier.

So go ahead. Make your choice.

[Toystore]

Blah

I haven't killed lambs before, but the self righteousness on this one guy in particular makes me so sick that I'm gonna start doing it until the exp from those mobs gets nerfed, and trust me it will. I encourage others to do the same. No loss if I get blacklisted by exploiters either, they have nothing to contribute to decent gaming.

[Kagato]

Do what others have said: dungeons. It's much better EXP and cash.

No, it really isn't. If they were, everyone would be doing them. It's a common fact of life. People are going to prefer what's easier and faster for the biggest reward. People who don't do so are purposely limiting themselves for whatever reason. Also, you didn't deny anything I said in my previous post. You just resorted to "you're just butthurt." That speaks volumes on your character. You'll walk all over everyone else as long as it benefits you. You want seals? People taking too long? Lets screw over every last one of them. Gotta have your 250 seals, after all! Screw everyone else's progress, right?

I haven't killed lambs before, but the self righteousness on this one guy in particular makes me so sick that I'm gonna start doing it until the exp from those mobs gets nerfed, and trust me it will. I encourage others to do the same. No loss if I get blacklisted by exploiters either, they have nothing to contribute to decent gaming.

Now that's a term being thrown around a lot lately in regards to this matter. "Self-righteous." So basically, me sticking up for the hundreds of players Lamb-killers willingly screw over is self-righteous, but specifically stating you'll kill Lambs because of your own personal reasons despite how many people you screw over is not? Isn't that, by it's very definition, self-righteous?

It's a matter of being respectful to other players. If you're only in it for yourself, then why would anyone trust you with anything in this game?