Dark Devices - Exploitation

[AridElf]

Question is are you doing it to grief like one of the posters here? Tho I don't think it should be bannable if you are doing it to cause grief and get caught in the act i guess so.

The description tells players what to do, I'm still going to kill the targets that contribute to the progress bar and hand in items on FATEs that require it. It is not griefing, it is following the FATE's instructions to progress, if everyone else wants to farm the trash mobs that's fine, but I'm going after what I need to kill to end the FATE and move on.

[Macka]

question though is ending it early griefing or some bannable offense? (to the players ending it early might as well ask and find out right?)

If you talking about me I dont end it early thats impossible I do on the other hand kill the targeted mob as in what the Fate tells me to kill and I do ignore people telling me to not to. But again I really dont know what people are shouting, yelling, or telling since I got them all cut off anyway. I never roll in a fate in a party never Fate Grinded leveled my second class thru dungeons only and my first through story and side quest the only reason you would never see me doing a Fate party is if my FC asks me and I would be rolling on my level 50 for it.

Also, me killing the targeted mob is also working as intended lol.

[silentwindfr]

question though is ending it early griefing or some bannable offense? (to the players ending it early might as well ask and find out right?)

if they come and say, yes... they will have a riot, because it means every people doing the objective to any fate can be banned. a couple of exemple:

- boss with add fate, people can argue, you must kill the add first before finish the FATE?
- the turn in item fate, same trouble people turning them item instead to farm monster.

but still something bother me with Camate answer, without offense, how the fact that some people can get more of 200.000 exp in 10 minutes is working as intended? i doubt any fate was make for give this much of exp! we are not talking of a lot of exp, but an humongous exp! we are talking of more of 10-15 times the reward of the fate earned in 12-13 minutes.... i'm the only one to notice a trouble here?

[CrimsonJenn]

No silentwind you aren't the only one to notice the problem, however the developers have made their official stance on it we just have to accept it at this point. People will take the path of least resistance it's in our nature as human beings.

[Kraggy]

question though is ending it early griefing or some bannable offense? (to the players ending it early might as well ask and find out right?)

What a totally puerile question.

/shakeshead

[silentwindfr]

the trouble is they don't want to loose potential subscriber, then instead to say, this is an exploit or a bug, they say nothing and fix it later. but it lead to a problem more bad the community is becoming more and more ugly as the time pass. speedrunner, trashtalking against first timer, harrassing because you break them fate by doing the fate as intended, leecher, leaver,...

indeed we do point the trouble of the gain of exp here... but it's a perfect example of how the community is because of the lack of action. the game is good, but it's an mmorpg, if the community is horrible.... well you get the point.

[Astorie]

What the, I'll politely call the "non-DDers" don't understand is that while many people do rage at the people completing the FATE early, there is quite a large number of people (at least on Gilgamesh) that finish the FATE early SOLELY to agitate or raise a giant middle finger to the people attempting to farm it. Hell, even a few people in this thread have said that if they get yelled at, they'll kill the lambs SOLELY to spite the other people. That's just as selfish and belligerent as the people chastising the people who innocently didn't know in shout or whispers.

[CrimsonJenn]

Of course it is, and that's all this fate effectively breeds on either side. I don't condone either side harassing the other out of intention, if you want to complete it - then do so. If not find a fate party and grind with the masses the fate spawns regularly enough that even if its interrupted you'll still get a fairly effective bonus to experience. Just take it in stride and try to make the most out of what you can.

[Molly_Millions]

1. Community complains about not being able to level secondary classes easily.
2. Community finds a way, but complains it's an exploit.
3. Rep says it's not an exploit.
4. Community complains

WTF?

[Suirieko]

.... I'm trying to figure out how that is considered an exploit in the first place. God damn you people bitch for the sake of bitching.