Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Melithea]

At this point it's probably safe to say that the lack of a "fix" being implemented is a good indication that it's working as intended.

Too bad the devs can't implement an attitude adjustment patch on some of the players, though.

[LuciferSam]

Here is my run in with this FATE. I'm happily questing along when I see this FATE pop up. I excitedly head to that area as it is a FATE that I have never done before and proceed to do as the FATE text says to (holy shit crazy talk I know!). I finish my turn in's and proceed happily on my way.

Lo and behold I receive a whisper telling me to pull my head out of my ass and a bunch of other garbage derogatory statements that I won't go into. Apparently I was supposed to just know that there was a way to grind a bunch of exp from that FATE, and that I was a piece of shit for not having my shout channel turned on (it was off due to gold spammers).

I have no problems with people that are trying to get as much exp as possible from this FATE. I just feel that nobody deserves the kind of treatment that I received. Same goes for the dbag trolls who are purposefully doing the turn ins just to screw with the FATE grinders.

[CrimsonJenn]

Whoa haven't checked on this in a while seems its become a battleground since i was away, so i'm gonna put my 2 cents in as i go down the line here. The fact that 99% of the population wants to do it a certain way that deviates from the primary objective is proof that its being exploited. Next up we have the fact that it hasn't been fixed, they have bigger problems on their plates than to deal with a small grind exploit atm it'll be fixed once they have fewer issues with the servers and goldsellers most likely. As always tho try and keep it civil or at least try to be constructive. =D And yes gigarit you are indeed exploiting them. Tho exploitation has its place in our lives as gamers and as human beings, it only becomes a problem when done in excess. =P

[HFX7686]

The fact that 99% of the population wants to do it a certain way that deviates from the primary objective is proof that its being exploited.

Do you feel that getting to level 50 is exploiting the game because 99% of players get to level 50?

As long as the primary objective is being accomplished in the allotted time, how is that exploiting?

Honestly, if you complete the objectives within the first 2 or 3 minutes, that's exploiting the FATE.

[Khaleon]

Knowing that FATES come directly from WAR's and Rift's version of PQs, it would be worth looking at how those games handle the situation. If you recall, when Rift was first released the various rifts had ranking system, rewards based on the ranking system, pretty much everything FATES currently have. Eventually though Trion purged the rating system and XP/seal rewards were given locked value and items were a percent chance to drop instead (Granted, a person who actually opened the rift gets a small bonus, but lets forget about that since FFXIV FATEs don't involve players to that same degree). The same thing could easily be applied to FATES here. Instead of the current mob XP + FATE XP+Medal Chance, SE could simplify it down to one bulk reward and a percent chance for FATE rewards such as the minions as needed. This way you don't have to worry about people farming the FATEs, people complaining about FATEs rewarding only AoE groups, no one being able to get X minion, ect.

[Chuggs]

Let's try and figure out who's a jerk and who isn't a jerk.

The FC of lvl 50's trying to complete it just to do it? Jerks.

The fresh players who have no idea what's going on. Not jerks. They're just doing what it says. It's not hard to just send a polite tell explaining the situation to them.

To the people who aren't in a FATE group or whatever. You're a jerk by killing the lambs because you're not in on the xp spam. Join or make a group

To the lvl 50's doing these FATEs for the seals. Sorry, but I think you're a jerk. It's selfish to ruin that for so many people just because you want seals faster.

To the people sending death threats and being a jerk to the other jerks. Be polite and explain why not to complete the objective.

also for your reading comprehension(skip down to the FATE talk): http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...6/feature/7731

[Purplenum]

On gilgamesh I've been going there every now and then when the fate is up and I intentionally finish it as fast as possible. People should not be able to get 100k+ exp within the course of a few minutes, leveling is easy enough as is.

[Tang]

On gilgamesh I've been going there every now and then when the fate is up and I intentionally finish it as fast as possible. People should not be able to get 100k+ exp within the course of a few minutes, leveling is easy enough as is.

Its easy to do 1st time around, but lvling another class is tedious and fate grinding is almost required due to it being far superior exp then dungeons or leves. Add to the fact that you've most likely run out of quests due to lvling the first time 50 and it becomes less and less easy to do.

Personally, I think its a jerk move to do what you're doing because you have no reason for doing it other then to get on other people's nerves.

[Starrywisdom]

On gilgamesh I've been going there every now and then when the fate is up and I intentionally finish it as fast as possible. People should not be able to get 100k+ exp within the course of a few minutes, leveling is easy enough as is.

SO what you're saying is you are intentionally doing something to get on peoples nerves; AKA trolling.

Look out guys, we got a tough guy over here.

[Purplenum]

SO what you're saying is you are intentionally doing something to get on peoples nerves; AKA trolling.

Look out guys, we got a tough guy over here.

Don't put words in other peoples mouths, I never implied I do it to get on peoples nerves.