Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Vanroe]

Dark devices certainly did bring out some of the worst in people, I, frankly, was disgusted by some of it. But i've also seen that in so many other groups in so many other games, that its hardly surprising. If you took out FATEs completely, the attitude is still going to be there, its just going to shift to another area of the game. If the game never had a single FATE, it would have still been there, maybe not as publically since it was broadcast over shout, but it would be there.

[benwithvees]

I farm at DD because it's more fun that just sitting there and doing nothing.

[PapesseLudovique]

I farm at DD because it's more fun that just sitting there and doing nothing.

Typical reductio ad absurdum fallacy.
I do A because I disregard B.

[Taemek]

Once upon a time it used to take years to level up, then it took months, then it took weeks. Now, today, it takes days and people still complain.....

[Lucke]

Once upon a time it used to take years to level up, then it took months, then it took weeks. Now, today, it takes days and people still complain.....

I miss those days. Corpse runs in an endgame dungeon. If you didn't get your corpse back in 7 days it disappeared from the world and all your weapons/armor you had equipped were gone. Hardcore servers where if you die, your character is deleted....you kids have it so easy now.

"Back in my day I had to level all the way to 50 both ways, uphill, in the snow, doing corpse runs in dungeons, with exp loss"
/nostalgia

[celticprince]

Once upon a time it used to take years to level up, then it took months, then it took weeks. Now, today, it takes days and people still complain.....

Tell me about it.

[celticprince]

Since when was smart and efficient equated to bad and lazy? If this was such an exploit people would have been banned. They nerfed it due to xp balance issues and idiots, good for them, there is still other ways to farm exp at astounding rates, svara for instance. I would rather them fix bugs, re-balance classes and fight mechanics, do something about the red circle issues and fix real exploits than worry about something like this when Yoshida had said in an interview this was not an issue at the time.

Considering the level people had to be to do DD, saying this made bad players that do not know their class is naive. between the story dungeons that are forced on you for any sort of functionality other than running on foot and farming fates, and the main story being used to gate you to each game function I find it hard to believe DD is the cause of the incompetent DPS, Tanks, and Healers that plague this game.

[davidwbean]

Actually, I do believe they nerfed it because of this part of the service agreement. 2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay. which is why on sept 9th they implemented this patch.... -Changes have been made to the behavior and mechanics of the enemies found within the “The Wanderer’s Palace” and “Amdapor Keep” dungeons to counteract instances of players running through the dungeon without engaging enemies on the way to bosses. As advancing through dungeons without defeating enemies is not an intended strategy, we plan to continue making further changes in the future to discourage this type of behavior.

[davidwbean]

SEE Above

Honestly the only people who got the FATE nerfed are those who were doing it in the first place, sharing the fact with everyone, then got ignorant and greedy and began being verbally abusive to those who were trying to complete it as intended.

[PrinceMugen]

LOL
Honestly I don't care if it exploit or not. What I care is that ppl spam me when I want to finish FATE asap.