Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Pathios]

I got about 60k exp at the most for the "farm" portion of that fate. Even solo I arrived and used scathe like twice and still got gold before the lambs died.

[silentwindfr]

i did do a try, chain exp 150+ if that normal... (more of 170k exp from it)

[AntonIdas]

Dev's say it's not an exploit. Furthermore, similar FATEs that can be used in the same way to DD are functioning properly.

That's pretty damning for all you white-knight types - The fact is if you kill the Lambs in Dark Devices, your "paid 13 bucks, do what I want" is in direct confrontation with the fifty or so people who "paid 650 bucks to farm this FATE, please don't troll us" without any moral or legal grounds for doing so.

404 No Exploits Found. Either get on the bandwagon, or get on my blacklist

[Caraway]

Honestly it has nothing to do with whether or not using DD in the way a lot of people do is an exploit or not. It's the vitriol that comes when someone simply does what is stated on their screen as the objective.

The sheer hate and filth that comes spilling out of peoples' mouths if someone goes and kills the Lambs is disgusting.

Ultimately the issue isn't with the FATE, but with the game being made in such a way that it encourages this kind of behavior. Why on Earth did they decide it was a good idea that for multiple levels in the 40-50 range the best way to get XP is to be so bloody anti-social? FATEs do nothing to improve your ability to play and they bring out situations like this that turn the community completely against one another.

I only did FATEs in those brief areas where there were absolutely no quests to run. If dungeons gave better experience I'd prefer to go there instead and level in a dungeon instead of dealing with the kind of people that think this sort of FATE is a good way to spend their day.

[AntonIdas]

Agreed, the real issue here is not "completing the fate", but that one clueless player, or one griefer, can ruin the experience for the masses. It's the same thing with item fates like Core Blimey - in theory, if no one actually turns in the items, you can get AOE's on the taps and farm the instant-death mobs for 14 solid minutes.

But then there's one clueless player/duty finder-er/troll who doesn't pay attention to the shouts and just completes the fate.

All in all, the whole reason this thread even exists is from bad design.

[silentwindfr]

the bad design it's to allow the pop of a monster 2 second after the death of one, i have done some test for the fun.
when a lamb die, when him knee hit the ground the same lamb repop!

the game is not designed to get more of 20 chain exp, here people can reach 100-150 with the good party setup. that a flaw in the game mechanic, an huge one.

[Blaetansa]

Yes, this is definitely exploited. But as it stands currently, it needs to be. The xp gained from quests as you level up doesn't correctly coincide which what you need for xp. Hell, if I had to do leves and dungeons and kill random mobs from the 46-49 no quest point, I'd take me a week instead of the two days it took me just to START questing again. More quests need to be added at the higher levels, or the xp gained needs to be increased because even though I don't like fate grinding, it is the only real way to level up.

Hell besides if people want to do this to level, why the hell not? Once they hit 50 its mostly going to be useless except for possibly seals. Other things need to be changed before they change anything on fates.


fyi silentwindfr: In a good group its more like 300-380 chain.

@caraway: yes, only thing to do.

[Xellos2099]

Once again dev have said this is not an exploit. New player that ruin dd once, fine , but usually it is the griefer that cause issue. For example, there is someone my on myserver call Lady **** that camp DD for 9 hours and end it in 2 minutes in every time. I do not buy the seal excuse, iof u do fate in any decent amount, you are capped out at 50k and normally trying to see how to USE seal. It is good old fasion griefing.

[Blaetansa]

THAT is griefing. I do stay on DD till the 1 min mark, haven't had any griefers on my end luckily. Was difficult enough trying to level, but the extra seals from the fates WERE nice.

[Alyko]

Even though it's not an exploit, don't be surprised if the developer fixes the fate by moving the lambs smack in the middle of the followers.

That said, I'm laughing so hard that someone in some server cares enough about this fate to 1. Time it's spawn and 2. Hold the lambs hostage for 20k