Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Unaki]

That's exactly my point. For the time that Dungeons take, the experience gain for the time requires just isn't worth it.

People are only grinding these FATE's because they're the only efficient method of gaining exp once you run out of quests.

To tell you the truth, level off FATEs all you want, if its fast levels for you then be my guest. You are the one who will be shunned and ridiculed because you only know how to cast Blizzard in Palace or Keep. That is how I feel about it, but back on topic, getting your panties in a wad over someone completing the objective and reporting them or issuing death threats is taking it too far.

[SirMilton]

Completing fates in the normal and intended manner still nets very fast experience points gains. It's many times faster than 1.0 experience points parties were. There is no reason to farm Dark Designs like this. Exploiting Dark Designs can grant between 100 and 150 thousand experience points within a 15 minute timeframe. It is effectively ruining the game. Not so much by allowing some players (the ones who farm parties, monopolize the mobs as they spawn, and rabidly, hatefully shout down anyone who tries to complete the FATE normally) to level much faster than others, which it does, but by creating contention and drama amongst the playerbase.

[TheWitcher]

I like how im "blacklisted" by some random players for killing the lambs to complete the fate, good job blacklisting a competent healer/tank player just because i gave you XP faster, since no one knows how to do the exploit properly anyway

[Laiyenu]

Instead of crying about DD perhaps real exploits should be first?

http://youtu.be/Y7h8wzvga3o

[wingofbenu]

To tell you the truth, level off FATEs all you want, if its fast levels for you then be my guest. You are the one who will be shunned and ridiculed because you only know how to cast Blizzard in Palace or Keep. That is how I feel about it, but back on topic, getting your panties in a wad over someone completing the objective and reporting them or issuing death threats is taking it too far.

oh please. It takes maybe 5 minutes to look up a proper rotation on the forums. Thats hardly a barrier to me deciding I'm better off hitting up dark devices than bothering to take 2-3+ weeks to grind up archer to cap

[Mixplate]

If its such a huge exploitation then Square will fix it since they seem to be fixing exploitation issues. with the sheer amount of people that have been coming to this fate, I think the exp people are expecting is quite impossible now. Don't blame fates for lack of skill in a player, you blame the player. someone can easily learn how to play in a simple video and fates teach you if you already don't know, to not stand in the red crap.. How you level and how you play at end game are 2 different things. Plus no one cares how you got to 50, its all about your gear and if you know the fight plain and simple. "oh hey i got to 50 without doing DD!" do you hear the crickets?

[Blaetansa]

Yes, this is definitely exploited. But as it stands currently, it needs to be. The xp gained from quests as you level up doesn't correctly coincide which what you need for xp. Hell, if I had to do leves and dungeons and kill random mobs from the 46-49 no quest point, I'd take me a week instead of the two days it took me just to START questing again. More quests need to be added at the higher levels, or the xp gained needs to be increased because even though I don't like fate grinding, it is the only real way to level up.

Hell besides if people want to do this to level, why the hell not? Once they hit 50 its mostly going to be useless except for possibly seals. Other things need to be changed before they change anything on fates.


fyi silentwindfr: In a good group its more like 300-380 chain.

@caraway: yes, only thing to do.

[PapesseLudovique]

While I do agree that this exploitation is doing more harm than good, it's sadly the only choice we have at one point.

Eventually you'll run out of quests to do and will be left with nothing to do but FATE's, Dungeons or Leves and the former 2 give very poor experience for the time they take.

Yeah you run out of story quests. You don't run out of FATEs, Levequests, dungeons, guildhests. I leveled to fifty and did this FATE twice.

[Artamie]

I'm not sure how game-breaking this exploit is but I would say use at your own risk. It can go in either direction either in the way of dev's eventually giving this the okay or treated like the heal/enhancing exploit. I remember in 1.0 healing and enhancing people use to give exp so people exploited this by creating healing parties that did nothing but cast party spells and capped out momentarily after release. Last I heard some of the offenders of the latter were perma-banned if they didn't step forward and admit to doing it. So yeah, be careful!

[CrimsonJenn]

@ Unaki - Well that was a tad harsh, however i do agree to an extent there are plenty of alternatives to leveling than fate exploitation. For one you could you know... play with some friends be they lower level or what as long as whatever your leveling is under your main classes level you get a bonus which is great!