Dark Devices - Exploitation

[Noahlimits]

The main argument I see is that leveling through other means does not make you know your class better; this is something I want to argue. If they made dungeoning the primary way to get exp, people would learn their jobs better at lower levels. Sure, there are people that get carried through storyline dungeons, but if you had to use PUGs to primarily level? That'd be a different story. It'd force the DPS players who insist on pulling, healers that over heal, and tanks who try to pull with Flash, quickly learn the correct way to play (or suffer many, many wipes).

While doing the level 47 Molboro quest is a good 130k exp per run (and really fast/easy for even average players), it takes around 45 minutes and bad parties will wipe, hopefully making you a better player by realizing what you're doing wrong. Doing this fate 'exploit/whateveryouwannacallit' gets you 130k exp in 10-15 minutes by pressing one button over and over in the same spot.

I'm not really opposed to people doing it for exp. I mean, whatever. If SE wants to nerf it I encourage it. If not, I encourage that too. While I agree "bad players are just bad players" to be true, some players could really benefit to having to do a moderately difficult dungeon to level. Let's face it: pick up groups are always going to be hit or miss. But if people rush to 50, I'm under the opinion that it'll be more "miss" than "hit." I even previously reported this, but mainly due to leveling with 50's who didn't know how to target or mark enemies without explicit instructions. :|

TLDR: I don't care how people wanna play the game, I just hate how it effects later game PUGs. If it's your 2nd, 3rd+ class, have fun. You're likely a good player already. I just want better players in the community.

[Camate]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

[Tiraelina]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

Thanks for telling us the dev team doesn't care about crafting or anything else pre-cap. Just RUSH RUSH RUSH. I would've loved to hear this before release.

[GiseleValkyrie]

Thanks for telling us the dev team doesn't care about crafting or anything else pre-cap. Just RUSH RUSH RUSH. I would've loved to hear this before release.

What does this have to do with crafting most players i seen usually do it after one or two classes get to 50

[Alhanelem]

Thanks for telling us the dev team doesn't care about crafting or anything else pre-cap. Just RUSH RUSH RUSH. I would've loved to hear this before release.

If you don't want to RUSH RUSH RUSH, you're free not to do it.

[Tiraelina]

If you don't want to RUSH RUSH RUSH, you're free not to do it.

There's this little thing called reality. That everything in an MMO is linked to other parts of it.

When everyone can burn through levels on select FATE's. It's bad for the rest of the game. Especially the economy, crafters and gatherers.

FATE's don't exist in a bubble.

"you're free not to do it" doesn't fly in anything but a single player game.

Isn't this basically like the XP chains for parties in 1.0(and I guess FFXI though I didn't play it)? I thought the point was to keep chaining mobs and killing them to maximize experience. DD and others like it always just seemed like a very fast version of a normal mob grinding party.

Every word from SE about grinding parties in XIV during Alpha and Beta was "No". They told everyone to do dungeons if they wanted to group and the amount of players in FATE's would thin out. Which is why they never changed the scaling, the only reason FATE trains even work is because everything can just be overpowered with numbers.

Everyone that's trying to mock others for assuming is a joke because of that. This flies in the face of everything they've said previously.

[Merxion]

Thanks for telling us the dev team doesn't care about crafting or anything else pre-cap. Just RUSH RUSH RUSH. I would've loved to hear this before release.

Wow you mean you haven't suffered through the Story line yet? That story line alone tells you they want you to enjoy the journey.

[Alezar]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

KO. This is what happens when people assume they know what the devs feel/think.

[BlaiseArath]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

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[Musashidon]

Hello,

Since there seems to be a lot of questions and concerns as to whether this is an exploit, I wanted to clarify that the way this FATE functions as well as others similar to it are working as intended and it is not an exploit.

question though is ending it early griefing or some bannable offense? (to the players ending it early might as well ask and find out right?)