Amdapor Keep exploit, and what do the Devs think?

[Rimmer]

theres an even better glitch in Amdapor keep when fighting the demon wall. Occasionally i've had it where 3 of my party members have died being pushed off the ledge, leaving one remaining party member, the demon wall then stops functioning and just sits there till it dies.

[Jonjey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3Ukt3lpiY
Demon Wall glitch caught on video.

[Aver]

^^
This is a great fix - especially for final boss door.


Other ideas (to mix it up):

• Random mob in room holds key for door
• Trash mobs have small chance at dropping currency
• Chest/currency drops scale with # of mobs killed
• Boss power/HP is amplified by the # of mobs remaining in dungeon (different attributes tied to different types of mobs)
• Doors that unlock only when a certain species of mob has been wiped out (could change randomly with each run)
• Currency drops from separate chest which spawn when a certain % of mobs killed (threshold be randomized from a range [eg. 50~80%])
  
  

Sounds like Nyzul Isle... lol

[Jennestia]

Vanilla WoW. Scarlet Monastery. If you went in without clearing ALL the trash, everything you didn't kill would come attack during the boss.

SE even has a precedence for doing something like this, when you fight the Ram NM in Lufaise Meadows for a relic material he'll summon all sheep and ram in the zone to his side. So it's not exactly the same but it's a similar concept SE has done before and can do again if they chose to.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

Who knows, that one gil might be a Gath gil...

lol not many will get this reference

[Raeletta]

Why? I really don't see a problem with speedrunning it. This was encouraged in 1.0.

1: This isn't 1.0 2: Perhaps they should make it so you get a full set of Arcane, Light and Plate armour for your first victory, no time wasted then!. (I'm kidding of course)

@those saying it's clever use of mechanics? Hell the fuck no! It's abusing the aggro loss on death and mobs on reset being unable to aggro. I'm not asking it to be fixed pointlessly, I understand why people don't want to kill them, but a reward or them appearing in the bossfight would be good. Or a mixture. More reward for beating them (The one gil thing is shit) and at least half of them being required. Or the boss gets one-shot happy.

[Hachiko]

They just need to add a reason to kill the trash mobs. Have them drop 1 mythology, for example, which gets given to a random party member. That would probably be enough that people would kill them.

Alternatively, or more creatively, they could have them drop high end crafting mats that cost mythology currently.

[nukempro]

You did this on purpose - No one would post about majority of the playerbase speed running then end their post with "Why should we be forced to not speed run" without knowing you're trolling purposefully.

If you load up DF, you'll be 9/10 forced to Speed Run, why should people be forced to speed run? Oh that's right..."If it's what I support and want to do it's ok to force others but if you so much as dare try to play your way and I'm in your party..."

You don't understand what the word force actually means. You choose to Que up for the DF knowing full well your party will want to speedrun. Your solution to this isn't..."Oh well ill make my own party and have it run the dungeon proper." Instead it's "I will petition the devs to make everyone clear the trash, because thats how i want to do it." See? One side is saying do your own thing(speedrunners) and the other side is petitioning devs to program the game so speedrunners can't exist.

[Estellios]

They just need to add a reason to kill the trash mobs. Have them drop 1 mythology, for example, which gets given to a random party member. That would probably be enough that people would kill them.

You know this is actually a pretty nice idea since you are capped on how many mythology stones you can get per week anyways and will help people get their stones a little bit faster.

[Steeled]

Yeah, this is nonsense.

Same old company, permit something stupid, and leave it for years, and then when noone cares, it gets fixed (people are saying this was a thing from 1.0, that's where I get 'years').