Amdapor Keep exploit, and what do the Devs think?

[charlemagne]

Or how about you just stop whingeing and being a killjoy? If you want to run the whole dungeon then run the whole dungeon. If the majority of players are doing speedruns then it's because they want to do speedruns. They aren't breaking the game mechanics, they are just enjoying the content how they want to enjoy it which is frankly none of your business.
Why should they be forced to play how you want them to play?

[CyrilLucifer]

Or how about you just stop whingeing and being a killjoy? If you want to run the whole dungeon then run the whole dungeon. If the majority of players are doing speedruns then it's because they want to do speedruns. They aren't breaking the game mechanics, they are just enjoying the content how they want to enjoy it which is frankly none of your business.
Why should they be forced to play how you want them to play?

I haven't found a group that wants to non-speed run it in about 4 days.

So technically, they're the ones forcing me to play in their manner. Your post seems silly.

[charlemagne]

You=1, they=3.

It's clearly you that wants the break from what the community has decided is the normal way to do it. And since when did we decide that killing all the mobs was the "correct" way to do it anyway? the object is to win through the dungeon isn't it? How people do that is up to them.

[Jennestia]

Why should they be forced to play how you want them to play?

You did this on purpose - No one would post about majority of the playerbase speed running then end their post with "Why should we be forced to not speed run" without knowing you're trolling purposefully.

If you load up DF, you'll be 9/10 forced to Speed Run, why should people be forced to speed run? Oh that's right..."If it's what I support and want to do it's ok to force others but if you so much as dare try to play your way and I'm in your party..."

[charlemagne]

If the majority of a party want to do it a particular way then the other members of the party should either do it that way or leave. Simple as that. And as to your "but if you so much as dare try to play your way and I'm in your party...", personally I never demand that a party play a dungeon one way or another, I'm happy to go along with whichever the majority of the party wants to do.

[nukempro]

You did this on purpose - No one would post about majority of the playerbase speed running then end their post with "Why should we be forced to not speed run" without knowing you're trolling purposefully.

If you load up DF, you'll be 9/10 forced to Speed Run, why should people be forced to speed run? Oh that's right..."If it's what I support and want to do it's ok to force others but if you so much as dare try to play your way and I'm in your party..."

You don't understand what the word force actually means. You choose to Que up for the DF knowing full well your party will want to speedrun. Your solution to this isn't..."Oh well ill make my own party and have it run the dungeon proper." Instead it's "I will petition the devs to make everyone clear the trash, because thats how i want to do it." See? One side is saying do your own thing(speedrunners) and the other side is petitioning devs to program the game so speedrunners can't exist.

[oda]

You don't understand what the word force actually means. You choose to Que up for the DF knowing full well your party will want to speedrun. Your solution to this isn't..."Oh well ill make my own party and have it run the dungeon proper." Instead it's "I will petition the devs to make everyone clear the trash, because thats how i want to do it." See? One side is saying do your own thing(speedrunners) and the other side is petitioning devs to program the game so speedrunners can't exist.

This is because running the dungeon properly should be considered the default method -- not the exception. If you want to do speed runs you should build a group manually (unless of course the entire DF group wants to speed run, then of course its all good.)