ranged attack on every monster?

[Peregrine]

Petition denied. Every enemy having a ranged attack is a response to every abuse of ranger in FFXI from years 1-5, which is precisely what everyone in this topic wants--a mob that doesn't hit back.

No.

[JayvirDeforte]

Petition denied. Every enemy having a ranged attack is a response to every abuse of ranger in FFXI from years 1-5, which is precisely what everyone in this topic wants--a mob that doesn't hit back.

No.

So instead you are going to throw any sort of tactic and positioning skill out the window? It's just not natural to have a goat sneeze on you from 50 feet away. They should still have to run to you

[Peregrine]

So instead you are going to throw any sort of tactic and positioning skill out the window? It's just not natural to have a goat sneeze on you from 50 feet away. They should still have to run to you

Uh, I'm going to throw your obvious attempt to throw every designed tactic ever inventable out the window so you can just shadowbind and kite everything, how about we put it that way.

Look, we all know exactly why you all don't want mobs that hit from a distance. You're not fooling anyone, which is why Tanaka stopped you before you even started.

It should stay. They knew exactly what you would do if you got what you wanted here. Kite and bind. Range range range range look how great we are! lolmeleers

[Peregrine]

one word dumb! every mob having a ranged attack is stupid as hell, and i hope they change it, this is just proof that no matter what there is someone in the world that eats crap on their pancakes =/

What is stupid is hell is binding birds so they don't attack, silencing worms so they don't attack, kiting kirin so it doesn't attack, and basically all the stupid tactics that you clearly want that clearly are just easy ways out of fighting something.

Your motives are perfectly obvious. You don't want the ranged attacks there, so you can figure out a way to kill something that can't hit you back.

That is, the sneezes are working exactly. As. Intended. Again, Tanaka saw people looking to exploit ranged attacks from a mile away and had goats spit on them as a response.

I'd take the hint.

[Akumu]

What is stupid is hell is binding birds so they don't attack, silencing worms so they don't attack, kiting kirin so it doesn't attack, and basically all the stupid tactics that you clearly want that clearly are just easy ways out of fighting something.

Your motives are perfectly obvious. You don't want the ranged attacks there, so you can figure out a way to kill something that can't hit you back.

That is, the sneezes are working exactly. As. Intended. Again, Tanaka saw people looking to exploit ranged attacks from a mile away and had goats spit on them as a response.

I'd take the hint.

I completely agree on your stand as I also feel the same way. I'm hoping Yoshi-P is aware enough to keep chances for cheap tactics cut to the barest minimum. People talked about how much of a "challenge" XI had and most others met that challenge the easiest way as possible. Why use melee DD when you could have a rdm(or bst) kite and black mages nuke it without stress of taking a hit(example). This is something that was obviously seen by Tanaka during his reign with intent to abolish the chances for such tactics.

If Yoshi-P removes these range attacks from standard mobs I will have no objection. However, he should not take it away from NMs, Dungeon Bosses, or just the main content in general. Kiting is one lowball tactic and would love if it would not be allowed again on content that matters. If someone wants to kite a standard dodo then by all means go ahead and have fun. However, If i'm facing some NM or "boss" that proved his worth NOBODY should have it running around in a circle like an idiot while being shot with magic and arrows in the back.

[Nabiri]

I completely agree on your stand as I also feel the same way. I'm hoping Yoshi-P is aware enough to keep chances for cheap tactics cut to the barest minimum. People talked about how much of a "challenge" XI had and most others met that challenge the easiest way as possible. Why use melee DD when you could have a rdm(or bst) kite and black mages nuke it without stress of taking a hit(example). This is something that was obviously seen by Tanaka during his reign with intent to abolish the chances for such tactics.

If Yoshi-P removes these range attacks from standard mobs I will have no objection. However, he should not take it away from NMs, Dungeon Bosses, or just the main content in general. Kiting is one lowball tactic and would love if it would not be allowed again on content that matters. If someone wants to kite a standard dodo then by all means go ahead and have fun. However, If i'm facing some NM or "boss" that proved his worth NOBODY should have it running around in a circle like an idiot while being shot with magic and arrows in the back.

Nice post. I wondered once why every monster seemed to have a ranged attack but decided it was probably to prevent kiting things around rocks and such to kill without getting hit. While it makes you feel smart perhaps and it is kinda fun, it's still a little cheap. I do think that it's a bit awkward with all monsters having ranged attacks though. I would like to see them at least keep ranged attacks on NMs and bosses as you said.. that's a great idea.
While kiting can be fun for those doing it, I don't like that it takes away from party play in a way. Suddenly parties/LS' only want ranged/magic classes and no others. And I don't really like seeing one person solo something they shouldn't be able to by tricking it into running back and forth. >.>
I would much prefer to see a full party accomplish beating a tough boss/NM fighting it head on and putting a wider range of classes' skills to use.

[RoninYabusame]

What is stupid is hell is binding birds so they don't attack, silencing worms so they don't attack, kiting kirin so it doesn't attack, and basically all the stupid tactics that you clearly want that clearly are just easy ways out of fighting something.

Your motives are perfectly obvious. You don't want the ranged attacks there, so you can figure out a way to kill something that can't hit you back.

That is, the sneezes are working exactly. As. Intended. Again, Tanaka saw people looking to exploit ranged attacks from a mile away and had goats spit on them as a response.

I'd take the hint.

I'm pretty sure you just implied that enfeebling the target is cheating. I'm not sure what you think you're proving with your internet bravado, this whole "everyone should stand there and take damage like a man so I can feel like I have some self-worth as a healer/enhancer" whiny garbage is pathetic.

Next you should start a thread demanding all enfeebling skills and spells should be removed because they're "just easy ways out of fighting something." You should demand they delete all thaumaturges as well. And while they're at it, get rid of lancers. They're stepping on your toes a bit too by making fights too easy. This game should only be Gladiators, Marauders, and Conjurers, everyone else is cheating.

[Shikyo]

What is stupid is hell is binding birds so they don't attack, silencing worms so they don't attack, kiting kirin so it doesn't attack, and basically all the stupid tactics that you clearly want that clearly are just easy ways out of fighting something.

Your motives are perfectly obvious. You don't want the ranged attacks there, so you can figure out a way to kill something that can't hit you back.

That is, the sneezes are working exactly. As. Intended. Again, Tanaka saw people looking to exploit ranged attacks from a mile away and had goats spit on them as a response.

I'd take the hint.

LMFAO! i dont really need to reply just read the post after your reply to mine and you kinda get the point

[wannabe_fat]

I couldn't agree more. And the fleeing mobs that you can't catch up to. That's beyond awesome...