Eventual Economic Disaster

[Tardyg]

It seems to me like the crafting jobs really got neglected from 1.0 to ARR.

It seemed as though the community relied on Crafters to make the best gear in 1.0.
In ARR it seems not so needed, and borderline a waste of time.

perhaps im missing something, but all my gears are currently quest rewards, Dungeon drops, or Company Seals equipment.
there seems to be little or now reason to utilize Crafted gear.

perhaps this will change as the game matures?

Currently a Lv 34 Scholar.

[Ashgarth]

Agreed on the uselesness of crafted gear.

I'm a lvl 50 weaver and I just cant find any gear i could craft for a profit, the only thing I can do is craft materials that other weavers use to lvl up.
The red rewards from dungeons make crafted gear completely useless and who's going to spend any gil on buying something with materia before lvl 50? Whatever you buy would be outdated in a couple hours.

[Koldhara]

on the plus side, this system ensures that gil buying is practically meaningless since sources of great gear and materials are abundant.

i think this is more of a case of people not getting used to the idea of not carrying millions of currency. the fact that all you need is a few thousand gil is probably hard to get for some people.

[Doowie]

They really need to add some level 50 leves that give you say 1,000 gil per completion or something because currently the 495gil per quest is a tad too low and boring as hell, especially with the repair costs being a bit higher than normal. The money sink in the game is going to kill off the economy in the game is no one has the ability to make gil after level 50, apart from selling materials or items, but players who bought those things will soon be in the same position.

Adding gil from each mob you kill (depending on level)
Adding a gil reward for completing a Duty Finder
Adding new level 50 levequests

Also remove the damn damage cost when doing gathering/crafting.

[SKYeXile]

I don't understand where these threads keep coming from, I know I'm not exactly "endgame" yet but I do have about 150k just from doing quests. I accept the allagan rewards because I rarely need the items thanks to dungeon crawls, and I honestly make more and more every day. I do complete almost all of the side quests in every area the main storyline takes me. Did you start off with a lot like I am approaching endgame and then spend it all once you got there?

You missed the point of the threads, yes we all have that sort of money, I infact had 300k when i hit 50, but after that there is only sinks, after you do all your quests there is no way to generate gil for the economy....unless you count the shitty dungeon drops and PQ rewards... I dont.

Upon hitting 50, you will not generate much gil, you will spend what you have on repairs and teleporting, if you're lucky, you will break even.

[rocco1986]

From what I have heard from many legacy players. A good amount of them brought tons of gil over from 1.0. SE is most likely waiting for that to die down a bit and be sunk, before introducing any meaningful ways of making new gil

[J_Kepler]

From what I have heard from many legacy players. A good amount of them brought tons of gil over from 1.0. SE is most likely waiting for that to die down a bit and be sunk, before introducing any meaningful ways of making new gil

I think you're right. They decimated legacy players' gil and also reduced NPC prices to 1/10th of what they originally were. There was obviously too much gil floating around in 1.0. I think they will be watching the economy closely though, to make sure it doesn't implode as the OP suggested.

[Duelle]

Agreed.

What's odd is DoL/H classes are an FFXIV uniqueness and have the potential to be some of the most interesting content in the game.

Instead Square Enix treats them like the runt of the litter. Insane amount of wasted potential here.

Thats probably because letting crafters and gatherers stranglehold the economy and player progression is not exactly fun for those who aren't playing the markets or simply don't enjoy crafting.

I have, economy was perfectly fine until gilsellers did their $1 per Million sale on xmas 2005.

And you conveniently forgot that what led to it was stupid things like "WTH you don't have a scorpion harness/haubergeon +1 and dual sniper rings +1 and a 3 stacks of sole sushi +1?!?!?!? /kick", which meant that to stay up to par you were either farming beehive chips ad nauseum or getting your gil from less than legitimate means.

The game's focus on rarity and several other boneheaded decisions by XI's devs only made gil sellers that much more prosperous.

[Jintaru]

You want gold sinks that will take even more money out of the economy? Imagine how many now are trying to save up on gil and stuff to buy a house? amount of gill to buy a medium house? apparently 3 times the amount of leveling a class to 50. I'm not sure if that's doing the minimal amount of quests or perhaps getting nothing but the gil reward when the option appears. Right now I've heard people getting up to 350k from the main story line alone. so for a medium house, is that roughly 1.05 million gil? and for a large house, it could be 6 times for a leveled character. well over 2 million gil. For legacy players it's probably nothing, still a drop in the bucket from when they played years ago. but once that money is gone, it's gone. and there will probably be a lot less gil running around servers. I know I'll blow my cash getting some form of housing.

[Jintaru]

It was easy enough to get it this time, but when you had quests that gave you 5k gold in one sitting, and chains with similar rewards, you get 20k gold in less then a half hour. doing leves at level 50. let's see... if you get 550 gil say for doing a leve, and doing it in reasonable time. if you have 100 leves fully to spend, thats going to be... 55k...wow. That really doesn't seem like a lot for all that effort. and there is an achievement for earning 10 million gil through leves?! how long does SE expect people to mindlessly grind these leve quests, especially when eventually it'll run out, and the refresh rate will be back to 3 per 12 hours. Let's do the math. if you were to start off at 0 leves, and you only got 6 leves a day due to the cycle, to reach 10 million gil, it would take you 3,030 days to reach, at level 50 no less. Unless there are leves I haven't gotten to yet (so I've only seen leves of 45) then thats way, way to long to try and grind for gil. thats 8 bloody years.