What was this game going to be?

[ObeiKinstar]

I was running around Thanalan the other day headed out of town towards camps to turn in some local leves. On my way to Camp Bluefog, I decided to run there in foot to enjoy the scenery. I had to switch from my 35thm to my 48alc to avoid getting killed from the buzzards, and diremites.

Thats when I got thinking about this games original intent and where it might have gone. The games system was originally designed for the crafting classes to be in combat alongside the others,from what I understand. I think that the physical levels were supposed to be a lot harder to level up and would have been a true discription of your actual level, where each job you would rank up in skill with that particular tool/weapon. This means if you were level 50 running around regardless of your skill with whatever tool you had equiped you wouldnt have to worry about getting one shotted.

Unfortuantely Tanakas vision was cut short from being forced to release an unfinished product. The physical levels had to be nerfed which caused the stat points to be nerfed which led the entire system to be unaffective. I think this was done so that any class could effectivily participate in the main story line.

I just started to see the revolutionary system Tanaka was envisioning and it seemed really cool. Im sad that the circumstances lead to what happened but, it is what it is and we must move on.

I am still looking forward to what the future holds. I see a real dedication and desire to make a FUN game from Yoshi-P. I must admit that sometimes the forum trolls can get me down but I've been trying to avoid those posts. Because in the end all that matters is "am I having fun in Eorzea" and my answer is YES. Yoshi-P has imo been delivering and imo will keep delivering.

I don't really have a point to this post, I was just running around thinking about it and felt like posting it. Please don't flame or hate or troll on my post. Love ya guys!!

[gifthorse]

Firstly, crafters were not meant to fight in combat. Everyone going around saying that lately don't know what they're talking about as nobody from SE ever said anything about crafters fighting except in response to demands by players pre-release and even then they were only considering it.

I think the Physical level system was supposed to work as a buffer, true. I think Physical level was supposed to be what mattered and I think Rank was supposed to be nothing more than a way for player's to get skills.

In the end, they needed to make compromises though because that system didn't really work for a game that is utterly dependant on endless grind.

[Rentahamster]

Firstly, crafters were not meant to fight in combat. Everyone going around saying that lately don't know what they're talking about as nobody from SE ever said anything about crafters fighting except in response to demands by players pre-release and even then they were only considering it.

I'll just leave this here....

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post105011

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/game...lacksmith/role

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/game...and/miner/role

[Zenaku]

I want Tanaka version i post this on other topic i think yoshi-p just gain players trust by making his little letters and crossing everything tanaka did. everything so far is not even his 100% idea he just getting what tanaka left over and making it his own.

What happen to linkshell companies? are we still getting our linkshell building and airship or is that out of the question now yoshi?

what are we calling it dungeon and raids? this is not WoW this is Final fantasy you could have call it something else stop trying to be like wow. At the end wow players would come join ffxiv leave and go back to wow or blizzard next gen mmo which is coming out in 2-3years.

why are you even changing Hamlet Defense? it was a great idea they was no need to remake it at all.

Sadly yoshi-p does not have my trust on him making this game a real final fantasy game when he making this into a wow clone by calling it dungeon and raids. don't even care if wow players would make ffxiv money there just end up quiting and returning to wow when they do a awesome patch. I play rift for 3 days when they had it free last week and half of them talking in /trade saying i'm going playing this game too wow new patch come out then am out for good.

So sadly i want tanaka version i look at every interview and that the reason i got it.

[Mack]

I want Tanaka version i post this on other topic i think yoshi-p just gain players trust by making his little letters and crossing everything tanaka did. everything so far is not even his 100% idea he just getting what tanaka left over and making it his own.

What happen to linkshell companies? are we still getting our linkshell building and airship or is that out of the question now yoshi?

what are we calling it dungeon and raids? this is not WoW this is Final fantasy you could have call it something else stop trying to be like wow. At the end wow players would come join ffxiv leave and go back to wow or blizzard next gen mmo which is coming out in 2-3years.

why are you even changing Hamlet Defense? it was a great idea they was no need to remake it at all.

Sadly yoshi-p does not have my trust on him making this game a real final fantasy game when he making this into a wow clone by calling it dungeon and raids. don't even care if wow players would make ffxiv money there just end up quiting and returning to wow when they do a awesome patch. I play rift for 3 days when they had it free last week and half of them talking in /trade saying i'm going playing this game too wow new patch come out then am out for good.

So sadly i want tanaka version i look at every interview and that the reason i got it.

You got Tanaka's version, if they keep it you'll be the only one playing the game.

[gifthorse]

You got Tanaka's version, if they keep it you'll be the only one playing the game.

Many of us actually bothered to stay because we were looking forward to Player-run Companies and ships.

Many people bought the game because we wanted active combat where position mattered (not auto-attack).

If Tanaka's vision was realised, Zanaku wouldn't be the only one playing. Conversely, if Yoshi's vision is realised, god help us all. Yoshi is systematically destroying the potential of FFXIV. There is nothing to look forward to anymore at all. Not even the slightest bit.

Only reason I still play is because I am curious to see if SE will fail as hard as I think they will under Yoshi's leadership. Lemmings.

[Mack]

Many of us actually bothered to stay because we were looking forward to Player-run Companies and ships

And you can bet your ass those are still coming - they've mentioned two different companies, Grand Companies that are NPC run and private companies that are what you're talking about but those aren't going to save the game but I admit they will be pretty cool. And you can't say anything of what you're saying with any legitimacy, since Tanaka didn't give you crap before he left and Yoshi hasn't even been given the chance. My biggest problem is they're so discrete about everything but I'd have to be an idiot to think they're just sitting there doing nothing.

[Zenaku]

You got Tanaka's version, if they keep it you'll be the only one playing the game.

Really? then why did i and many ppl got the game wanting tanaka version? i don't think you saw yoshi-p coming anytime soon? not if you have a time machine which you don't so sadly everyone was happy with tanaka version. just needed more time the game was only 40% done when they show it to us and gamecom was like what 60% really the game was not even done by gamecom the version player play was not even alpha version lol.


@Arcell it does not matter if wow was the one who made dungeon or raid it the matter that they could have name it something that is not main stream The idea of FFXIV is to get something away from WoW be something else don't tell me thanks to yoshi-p all we going to get is a clone version of wow now -.- oh look it's Final fantasy warcraft no thanks. FFXIV is not wow and the idea of ffxiv was so players have something else to play that is not wow.


So everyone in here is happy that FFXIV may become wow? in some way? come on FFXIV was something to get away from wow and don't tell me to go play ffxi because sadly that game is dead and wont last very long thanks to PS2 limits HDD.

i want FFXIV to be a good game that even casual can play but don't copy everything from west even the class name are copy from west which this is why i dislike tanaka one think i like from yoshi is he going to add rdm,whm,blm back into the game but everything else yoshi-p is doing i don't like it.

w/e at the end i want the game to be fun just don't make it like just to get wow players to play they just end up leaving going back to wow or blizzard new mmo which is coming out in a few years.

[Mack]

Really? then why did i and many ppl got the game wanting tanaka version? i don't think you saw yoshi-p coming anytime soon? not if you have a time machine which you don't so sadly everyone was happy with tanaka version.

What the heck?

[Arcell]

What happen to linkshell companies? are we still getting our linkshell building and airship or is that out of the question now yoshi?

Before I became producer/director, in the old 1.2 patch notes it mentioned that we will be releasing player Companies. The thing is, we realized that we could bring out player Companies, but then if there's nothing for the Companies to do there wouldn't be any reason to bring it out. We decided to reverse that and first make sure that there's going to be content and stuff for the Companies to do before releasing the Companies. The whole coming danger that's approaching Eorzea is going to play a big part in something for the Companies to do.

Source: http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=25503

what are we calling it dungeon and raids? this is not WoW this is Final fantasy you could have call it something else stop trying to be like wow. At the end wow players would come join ffxiv leave and go back to wow or blizzard next gen mmo which is coming out in 2-3years.

Because WoW totally invented instanced dungeons/raids. It's not like any game has ever done that before or that it's become somewhat of a staple of the genre, oh wait...

why are you even changing Hamlet Defense? it was a great idea they was no need to remake it at all.

Checked into the status of hamlet defense battles for you all. While the details/concept won't be exactly the same after shifting to the new team, there is something similar planned. The current plan is to implement settlements for this purpose in a future patch.

Hey Sorel, while I don't have any addition details to add at the moment, I don't think the comment that Rukkirii posted went so far as to say current hamlets won't be utilized at all. I would just take her comment at its face value and hang tight until further information is posted in the future.

They haven't said anything about the new version aside from the fact that it's not the exact same thing. That doesn't mean it's an entirely different concept, they even said that something similar was planned. How about you wait until they actually give us info before whining?