To all the SMN QQ

[Kevee]

Hmm...what exactly is it tho. I still dont understand lol

It stands for global cooldown.

Basically, when you use a skill you can't use another for 2.5s.

Some abilities have an exception, but that's the gist.

[Karnage720]

Got it, thanks, carry on lol. Getting a lot from of pointers from both sides of the arguement.

[shinros]

I do have to say after reaching 45 with my summoner and 47 with my black mage the summoner needs more testing the ramp up time for DOTS is too long in my opinion because there are many dungeons that require quick burst like demon wall etc. This goes back to enkindle the cooldown is too long in my opinion they should also make the pets interact with the spells more shining emerald/contagion is a good place to start.

Plus they need to fix the debuff cap like now before 24 man raids come in cause if they don't I doubt summoner will get much of a place in 24 man raids.

[Shamirah]

Did you do the Wanderer Palace ? With two summoner ? The last boss just die so fast it is not even funny.

[Rover1983]

Hm garuda is rough on the feathers phase because our ramp up time is too long. This is another thing I've been concerned about is how long it takes for us to start doing our dmg. Its too long, 13+ seconds to be precise. Our pets are just additional dots which sucks. Was hoping our pets would dish our more of our dmg.

[Kevee]

Hm garuda is rough on the feathers phase because our ramp up time is too long. This is another thing I've been concerned about is how long it takes for us to start doing our dmg. Its too long, 13+ seconds to be precise. Our pets are just additional dots which sucks. Was hoping our pets would dish our more of our dmg.

Uh, we're great on feathers. The first 2 feather phases where they spawn on her are ours to make or break.

It's not 13+ seconds. At the 7.5s mark we're doing, at a minimum, 725 potency. That's more than other classes can do without blowing bigger CDs.

[abesut]

Uh, we're great on feathers. The first 2 feather phases where they spawn on her are ours to make or break.

It's not 13+ seconds. At the 7.5s mark we're doing, at a minimum, 725 potency. That's more than other classes can do without blowing bigger CDs.

you just keep pulling out those numbers, makes me take you even less serious

[Kevee]

you just keep pulling out those numbers, makes me take you even less serious

GCD 1 - Bio II
-1s in Garuda uses Wind Blade - 100 Potency
GCD 2 - Miasma - 20 Potency Initially. During cast, Bio II ticks for 35 potency.
4s in Garuda uses Wind Blade - 100 potency
GCD 3 - Bio - Bio II ticks for 35 potency, Miasma for 35 potency
In between GCD - Fester, 300 potency
7s in - Garuda uses Wind Blade - 100 potency


Now count all that up.


Now to go on to why we're good going on feathers!

We're the only class in the game that can easily turn our single target rotation into AoE, and guess what that means also being a DoT class? If we properly time our DoTs so they have a high timer, and place shadow flare..We can bane as soon as the adds spawn!

And guess what that means? They're going to be dead, fast.


Edit: Yes, when in factoring in auto attacks we're behind, but not as much as people think.

[toddx77]

Considering summoner could be a tank, dps, or healer wouldn't that be its specialty? The may not be the best tank, healer, or dps compared to other jobs, but the fact that they can do all 3 gives them an advantage.

[Malix]

Considering summoner could be a tank, dps, or healer wouldn't that be its specialty? The may not be the best tank, healer, or dps compared to other jobs, but the fact that they can do all 3 gives them an advantage.

Rofl no, smns can only dps with the occasional instant cast raise.