We need an AH

[Elexia]

I'm playing the game with the MW system, I don't need an AH to "play the game", but I've played MMOs with all types of market systems so I know that it isn't an absolutely necessity, especially considering no one wants the bidding type of AH, they basically want a glorified NPC shop that sells everything in the game.

[Vackashken]

They also refuse to make suggestions about how the Market Wards could be improved to remedy the issues they have.

Maybe because "they" don't want it remedied but scraped completely?

they basically want a glorified NPC shop that sells everything in the game.

Oh, is that what "they" want. Lol, OK

[Seif]

I'm sorry you can't be helped then. :/

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nd-Convenience. fixes everything people complain about the MW. Auctions are arbitrary and time consuming so an Auction house would be just as bad as the MW is now.

Do us all a favor and never ever work in UI design:

1. Whatever you're saying ignores the fact that zoning to the wards is one of the biggest problems in the wards. (basically that they exist)

2.This actually a handy feature to have and is present in most AHs in MMOs

3.Yay not needed pop up windows! No, just no.

4. Stuff needs to be in the AH clean and simple I've got enough to worry about in my own inventory to worry about the status and location of my retainers is too much and counter productive to your whole idea's title. Also see #1.

5. See above.

6. A horrible idea an AH can gather people at certain locations and gives the world the feeling that it's alive. Like Jeuno. Imagine if nobody went to Jeuno to use an AH. *tumbleweed*

[Tonka]

Why cling to the market wards? What is so great about having to teleporting around and navigate countless menus over and over again. And I like my prices to be competitive so having to look up the item (menus and their lag) run back to my retainer and put a price on it (menus and lag) and run back and forth and do that until everything I want to sell is in my bazaar...

OR, type what you want in, click BUY, receive in mail. And you can buy multiple things without even leaving the AH window! Buy this buy that, run and pick it all up. HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY. Same for selling. Is this a true Auction House? Who gives a crap what the actual definition of an Auction House is? In a lot of MMOs an Auction House is just a place to buy and sell things among other players CONVENIENTLY. Whether they should be called that or not is another story.

Current system is annoying. The Market Wards are wrong. And bad. There should be a new, stronger word for them. Like badwrong, or badong. Yes, they are badong. From this moment, I will stand for the opposite of Market Wards: gnodab.

[Elexia]

Why cling to the market wards? What is so great about having to teleporting around and navigate countless menus over and over again.

Certain AH systems you have to navigate menus over and over and over, especially as you continue to level up more and more. Hell you even have to expand and collapse categories over and over unless the particular system saves your settings, which a lot of times they do not.

You even have to know item IDs for searching on some as some AH's search system goes by ID rather than actual name. So in reality, MW only lacks so few things when compared to an AH because both systems get the job done.

Though maybe I'm imagining everyone wearing weapon and armor outside of the starter class gear.

[Cairdeas]

Do us all a favor and never ever work in UI design:

1. Whatever you're saying ignores the fact that zoning to the wards is one of the biggest problems in the wards. (basically that they exist)

2.This actually a handy feature to have and is present in most AHs in MMOs

3.Yay not needed pop up windows! No, just no.

4. Stuff needs to be in the AH clean and simple I've got enough to worry about in my own inventory to worry about the status and location of my retainers is too much and counter productive to your whole idea's title. Also see #1.

5. See above.

6. A horrible idea an AH can gather people at certain locations and gives the world the feeling that it's alive. Like Jeuno. Imagine if nobody went to Jeuno to use an AH. *tumbleweed*

Again. I made suggestions you just shoot them down and do not supply your own. Which is a problem with this argument. People for the Wards are trying to make them better. People against them just scream "AH NOW"

[Seif]

Again. I made suggestions you just shoot them down and do not supply your own. Which is a problem with this argument. People for the Wards are trying to make them better. People against them just scream "AH NOW"

What is it about "AH NOW!" that you don't get? People want an AH that is the suggestion there's zero reason to "brainstorm" the issue.

[Elexia]

What is it about "AH NOW!" that you don't get? People want an AH that is the suggestion there's zero reason to "brainstorm" the issue.

No one said why. No one explains what specific AH system they want. No one is considering the fact it will DISTRACT FROM WORK INSTEAD OF JUST WORKING ON THE ALREADY EXISTING SYSTEM.

We don't need an AH, besides the only reason people want one is because other MMOs use it, yet people seem to dislike anyone wanting this game to be like say FFXI or any past FF games.

This is why the game is best left to the developers to make.

[Cairdeas]

What is it about "AH NOW!" that you don't get? People want an AH that is the suggestion there's zero reason to "brainstorm" the issue.

Because and I'll use your own words. It makes you look retarded and unable to compromise so your opinion shouldn't matter.

[Mack]

If even one person likes the MW system even as is, it does kind of throw out the argument that something is better for everyone. Since it's like saying Cadillac are the most efficient cars so everyone should choose them over Honda despite the fact someone may personally like a Honda better.

It all comes down to personal taste and opinions in the end.

I'm pretty sure the difference there most the time is the price tag that comes with a cadillac. If Cadillac is the more efficient car, and considering Hondas are nothing to be going head over heels over, if both cars had the same price tag about 99% of the people would go with the Cadillac. Doesn't matter anyway, I've lately taken a liking to the Wards but I just wanna know what they have planned for them when there's an influx of player because as it is now they're not very well designed. They also need to make the search system much better than it is.