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    First of all, this is in the wrong forum. We have sub-forums for a reason. Use them, please.

    With that out of the way, there is ZERO reason for an AH. Not only would it simply duplicate the market ward functionality, it wouldn't even duplicate all of it since an AH system likely isn't going to be able to handle buy orders (where the retainer has gil allocated to buy certain things from players), and it definitely isn't going to be able to handle repair work orders. There are only a few rough parts of the current system left. Those who are STILL clamoring for an AH at this point are doing so simply because they don't want to use another system, rather than any actual valid reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    First of all, this is in the wrong forum. We have sub-forums for a reason. Use them, please.

    With that out of the way, there is ZERO reason for an AH. Not only would it simply duplicate the market ward functionality, it wouldn't even duplicate all of it since an AH system likely isn't going to be able to handle buy orders (where the retainer has gil allocated to buy certain things from players), and it definitely isn't going to be able to handle repair work orders. There are only a few rough parts of the current system left. Those who are STILL clamoring for an AH at this point are doing so simply because they don't want to use another system, rather than any actual valid reason.
    The is plenty of reason for an AH. With regards to buying/selling items a duplicate system of FFXI's AH is better in -every single way- to the current system.

    I can see your point however about the automated buying/selling and repair function retainers provide. But again i dont see why a crafter couldnt list his services on a single AH/NPC then whoever needs an item repaired can bid through that. One of the main qualms i have with the retainers is the sheer amount of them (im pretty sure we can all aggree the wards look ridiculous.) and having to zone to change wards, followed by running around to the retainer. It's all more (admitedly little) effort, but still people wonder why change something that worked so well.
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    First of all, your purple text is annoying. And I choose this area to post, because I knew it would get the most traffic. If a mod wants to move it so be it. Until then, you'll have to deal with it, because you are not the Forum Police.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Those who are STILL clamoring for an AH at this point are doing so simply because they don't want to use another system, rather than any actual valid reason.
    Really? Because I could have sworn I stated quite clearly that I do have a valid and legitimate reason. I might not agree with some of you about what is the best system for commerce, but I hate it when people show that they have either no reading comprehension or no ability to retain that information or flat out falsify the facts. If you are happy with the current system, then goody for you. I however am not, and it has nothing to do with how good or bad the current system is in its opperation nor does it have anything to do with an unwillingness to conform to a new system.

    The reason I am unhappy with the current system is because of the lack of convenience, speed, and efficiency of buying and selling items!!

    Thats it. End of thought. Do not try to twist what I am saying or flasify information in your favor. Do not add to this statement. I promise you this is the only problem I have with the current system, and I don't have some kind of ridiculous or sinister motive.

    I do agree with you about the buy orders and repair orders, but I thought we could reach some kind of compromise? Yes, I know that the devs have more important things to work out, but eventually I would like an AH. If nothing else do what others have suggested and put in the ability to buy and sell (only if you have a retainer available) from the search npc outside the wards. It could even have a tax. I would be prefectly willing to pay a 6%-8% tax. Is that too much of me to ask? Can we not have some form of compromise for lovers of MW and AH systems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amsai View Post
    The reason I am unhappy with the current system is because of the lack of convenience, speed, and efficiency of buying and selling items!!
    Adding those doesn't make an Auction House Though. Please stop using the blanket Term "Auction House" for a bazaar system that has convenience.

    If it doesn't have Blind or Time Bidding then its not an auction house. Just implement the convenience changes to the Market Wards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amsai View Post
    First of all, your purple text is annoying. And I choose this area to post, because I knew it would get the most traffic. If a mod wants to move it so be it. Until then, you'll have to deal with it, because you are not the Forum Police.


    Really? Because I could have sworn I stated quite clearly that I do have a valid and legitimate reason. I might not agree with some of you about what is the best system for commerce, but I hate it when people show that they have either no reading comprehension or no ability to retain that information or flat out falsify the facts. If you are happy with the current system, then goody for you. I however am not, and it has nothing to do with how good or bad the current system is in its opperation nor does it have anything to do with an unwillingness to conform to a new system.

    The reason I am unhappy with the current system is because of the lack of convenience, speed, and efficiency of buying and selling items!!

    Thats it. End of thought. Do not try to twist what I am saying or flasify information in your favor. Do not add to this statement. I promise you this is the only problem I have with the current system, and I don't have some kind of ridiculous or sinister motive.

    I do agree with you about the buy orders and repair orders, but I thought we could reach some kind of compromise? Yes, I know that the devs have more important things to work out, but eventually I would like an AH. If nothing else do what others have suggested and put in the ability to buy and sell (only if you have a retainer available) from the search npc outside the wards. It could even have a tax. I would be prefectly willing to pay a 6%-8% tax. Is that too much of me to ask? Can we not have some form of compromise for lovers of MW and AH systems?

    Dude no matter what if have anything to say about this game needed to be changed you will see the same 4-5 ppl attacking you learn thoes names and put them on the ignor list then you should get good discussions key to knowing the XIV extremist that always attack anyone that would like to voice an opinion is if you see their post count and its 500-2000 thats them.
    I would like to see an ah/player housing/mail system added alot would i think -thoes 4-5 ppl, but... atm i think i rather see other things implemented 1st.
    Dont let ppls ignorant attacks cause you to sway away from voicing your thoughts
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