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    BruceyBruceyBangBang's Avatar
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    In FFXIV people are undercutting by an asinine amount opposed to XI's system where people would look up the history and undercut by a small amount. I was selling Pearl Rings for 50k a pop til someone just comes along and undercuts me by 60%. 60 PERCENT!

    Like honestly? Honestly?
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    Quote 引用元:BruceyBruceyBangBang 投稿を閲覧
    In FFXIV people are undercutting by an asinine amount opposed to XI's system where people would look up the history and undercut by a small amount. I was selling Pearl Rings for 50k a pop til someone just comes along and undercuts me by 60%. 60 PERCENT!

    Like honestly? Honestly?

    Thats not Undercutting. You obviously were selling them for too much. if someone can make the item for cheaper and still sell it for a profit, they will.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote 引用元:Cairdeas 投稿を閲覧
    Thats not Undercutting. You obviously were selling them for too much. if someone can make the item for cheaper and still sell it for a profit, they will.
    MidgardZolom the voice of reason. You really are clueless, arn't you?
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    MidgardZolom the voice of reason. You really are clueless, arn't you?
    The problem is, in a game you can't force your product to be superior by added bonuses for buying yours. which is why all MMO's fail.

    As soon as someone knows how and can make the item cheaper and faster they will sell it for what ever gives them a profit.

    In the Real world iPads are the most expensive MP3 player. Apple doesn't get mad because Sony, Zune, SD, and Phillips sell theirs for less because their product still sells more and has higher quality.

    You can't do that so you have to adjust. If someone else can sell the item for a profit lower then you are selling yours then you are overcharging.


    As far as WoW's AH, yeah, I appear to have gotten the Mailbox functions confused, It has been over 2 years since I even played the game and even then I rarely used the AH because everything was over priced and the gear dropped from mobs and quests was always better anyway.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote 引用元:BruceyBruceyBangBang 投稿を閲覧
    In FFXIV people are undercutting by an asinine amount opposed to XI's system where people would look up the history and undercut by a small amount. I was selling Pearl Rings for 50k a pop til someone just comes along and undercuts me by 60%. 60 PERCENT!

    Like honestly? Honestly?
    Sounds like Wal-mart opened in your neighborhood...
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    Quote 引用元:BruceyBruceyBangBang 投稿を閲覧
    In FFXIV people are undercutting by an asinine amount opposed to XI's system where people would look up the history and undercut by a small amount. I was selling Pearl Rings for 50k a pop til someone just comes along and undercuts me by 60%. 60 PERCENT!

    Like honestly? Honestly?

    Don't get me wrong, but what's wrong with that? What would you do if someone offered you a service for 50€ and the next one for 25€? As long as the other one is making money with it, so be it. Once we have more players you'll see this all the time. That's free market economy, I'd say.
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    Don't get me wrong, but what's wrong with that? What would you do if someone offered you a service for 50€ and the next one for 25€? As long as the other one is making money with it, so be it. Once we have more players you'll see this all the time. That's free market economy, I'd say.
    Because a stable economy it does not make.
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    Quote 引用元:Jinko 投稿を閲覧
    Because a stable economy it does not make.
    And why is that so? So you basically say everyone else who's smarter than the person selling for way too much must be punished? Just walk into a store. Or search items on the internet. You'll always find price differentiations. lol That's life.
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    And why is that so? So you basically say everyone else who's smarter than the person selling for way too much must be punished? Just walk into a store. Or search items on the internet. You'll always find price differentiations. lol That's life.
    Because say for example real life is kept in check by profit / competition, granted this takes place to some extent in a video game but there are always those who don't care about making a loss on something just to sell, which then creates an instability in the marketplace.

    Its a good reason why the History feature in FF11 works and why there is an addon for WoW which determines the average price of scanned items on the AH.

    People want stability it makes it easier not only to sell but to buy.
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    Quote 引用元:Jinko 投稿を閲覧
    Because say for example real life is kept in check by profit / competition, granted this takes place to some extent in a video game but there are always those who don't care about making a loss on something just to sell, which then creates an instability in the marketplace.
    And said person can undercut for an eternity? That's an aweful business model (unless you get lured into their store by that buying more in the end). Sooner or later that person will be broke. End of story.
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