We need an AH

[ManekiKanji]

Ever since the implementation of the search function i cant say there was ever many major problems once it was possible to find what i want when i wanted it if it was there, i dont think the system is so over the top bad compared to any type of auction where it would add such a significant ammount of time finding one item over another system where it needs to be revamped or warrent the adding completly new systems.

It does however need to fully iron out the crashing , add delivery methods and add a few useful features to make it a little better, the ability to look at all the current item locations after you have already put in a search for an item already, if its in multiple places im going to have to go through the search again look up the ward, the type of item, then the item itself if i do so need to look up the items location a second time for whatever reason.

[Seif]

Ever since the implementation of search to MW I've had less and less hope that SE will ever truly fix the need of an AH and are willing to drown with the sinking ship of the MW with the massive holes of user friendliness only partly patched with cheap, cumbersome menus. Meanwhile people are jumping the ship because the captain isn't willing to do anything about the problem.

Some suicidal people are happy with the broken system but their cries are pretty much worthless since people leaving are still leaving for the lack of hope for a better system.

[Altera]

Ive left WoW to play FFXIV cause I find it much more enjoyable to play. And one of the things I actually really like, is that there isnt any AHs. But instead Marketwards and people you can buy straight off from looking at what they have for sale.

And I like the more player interaction it brings. Its nice when I am just standing by an Aetheryte and suddenly I see. Player has bought Elm Cane 15k Gil and then the player /bow/wave etc.
I would much rather like SE to upgrade the MW instead of implementing AHs.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I prefer games that does things differently then all other mainstream games out there.

[Krin]

Ive left WoW to play FFXIV cause I find it much more enjoyable to play. And one of the things I actually really like, is that there isnt any AHs. But instead Marketwards and people you can buy straight off from looking at what they have for sale.

And I like the more player interaction it brings. Its nice when I am just standing by an Aetheryte and suddenly I see. Player has bought Elm Cane 15k Gil and then the player /bow/wave etc.
I would much rather like SE to upgrade the MW instead of implementing AHs.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I prefer games that does things differently then all other mainstream games out there.

I think most the complaints are on the seller side. Buying from the MW is a fairly straightforward and somewhat enjoyable experience. Selling, on the other hand, is a full time job in and of itself. If I could easily flip between Item Search and managing my Retainer's Bazaar, I'd have no issues. At this point, though, I have to write down what I want to sell on a notebook, use the item search to figure out where I want price my stuff, spend a good hour buying out all the idiots undercutting the market by 60%, THEN set up my retainer for selling. It's exhausting and can take a few hours in the current setup.

Albeit, people are probably spoiled rotten by Auctioneer and WoW. Even with the vanilla AH interface, researching and posting items were in one place and I could tear through everything in an hour, tops.

Currently, unless it's something that I can net more than 5,000 gil on, I vendor it, *period*. My time is not worth less than that.

Then again, the system may be designed such that they want selling to be that much work, but it's a bit extreme.

[Raubahn]

true we need one atm
and the most reason for it is history and Undercutters
hell i'v been trying to sell my black soles,veloydna carps,northern pikes and lots of other stuff
but seriosly some ppl think that by undercutting their stuff will make their items sell faster but in the end all players selling that same item will undercut their item in order to sell it
in wutai black soles have been reduced from 3.5k > 2.4k and its going down

[Coglin]

true we need one atm
and the most reason for it is history and Undercutters
hell i'v been trying to sell my black soles,veloydna carps,northern pikes and lots of other stuff
but seriosly some ppl think that by undercutting their stuff will make their items sell faster but in the end all players selling that same item will undercut their item in order to sell it
in wutai black soles have been reduced from 3.5k > 2.4k and its going down

Most arguements I can understand. This idealism on the other hand is laughably moronic.

Because you want everyone to sell an item for the amount you want so you can make your top dollar....GTFO.........Someone has an item on sale cheaper then you, so we should revamp the system to accomodate your gil flow.

[Akira_Tenshi]

I don't understand why people are supporting the market ward. Surely an auction house like other MMOs would be better and easier for us.

[Jennestia]

I don't understand why people are supporting the market ward. Surely an auction house like other MMOs would be better and easier for us.

So you'll be perfectly ok with them putting off much needed fixes and content additions to this game in order to scrap the MW and implement an Auction House? Both systems are similar, they'll be exactly the same when the MW gets a few more adjustments since the only thing the AH does over the MW is:

Buying from Search
Delivery.

That's it. We all know when people scream for an Auction House they're generally referring to the glorified Vendor version and not an actual auction house.

[Blarp]

So you'll be perfectly ok with them putting off much needed fixes and content additions to this game in order to scrap the MW and implement an Auction House? Both systems are similar, they'll be exactly the same when the MW gets a few more adjustments since the only thing the AH does over the MW is:

Buying from Search
Delivery.

That's it. We all know when people scream for an Auction House they're generally referring to the glorified Vendor version and not an actual auction house.

It's also impossible to play the market in any meaningful way because it will take you weeks to compile all the information if you can access it at all. I guess some people see it as an exploit, but cornering entire item types in the market takes more skill, patience, and risk than any other activity. Margin trading, monopolizing items, and generally bending the marketplace to your will is fun, but it's impossible to do with such a bare bones system like the MWs.

Maybe it's not important to you because you don't enjoy market manipulation, but I always have participated in market PVP in every MMO I've played, but the MW's just kill that idea along with the horrendously bad economy.

[Isaveron]

So you'll be perfectly ok with them putting off much needed fixes and content additions to this game in order to scrap the MW and implement an Auction House? Both systems are similar, they'll be exactly the same when the MW gets a few more adjustments since the only thing the AH does over the MW is:

Buying from Search
Delivery.

That's it. We all know when people scream for an Auction House they're generally referring to the glorified Vendor version and not an actual auction house.

While they were wasting precious resources attempting to fix such a flawed system, they could have instead given us a simple marketplace. No matter how many fixes they apply, our current Market Wards will always be inferior to what even free to play games, like Vindictus, receives.