We need an AH

[Kaedan]

Yup that right. :S

Sure thing boss... >.>

[Molly_Millions]

waste of dev time at this point, can we move on?

[Lobo]

Didn't Tanaka specifically say in one of his old interviews that they knew that the Market Ward system was an inconvenience to players and they did it anyway? I think that pretty much sums up what got FFXIV into the situation it is in now. I'll try and see if I can find the article later.

Edit: Aha, found it. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...guered_MMO.php

Basically they tried to combat RMT activities and deflation/inflation with the new system. All they needed to do was implement the same AH feature without the price history and they would've solved their problem. Or perhaps if they actually had more active GMs to take care of RMT. It wasn't the AH that destroyed the economy in FFXI for so long, it was merely a tool used by RMT. SE let the Gilseller issue grow out of hand by taking too long to actually address it and act upon it. Which could easily be countered by being more active with disciplining and banning accounts.

[Shiyo]

Didn't Tanaka specifically say in one of his old interviews that they knew that the Market Ward system was an inconvenience to players and they did it anyway? I think that pretty much sums up what got FFXIV into the situation it is in now. I'll try and see if I can find the article later.

Edit: Aha, found it. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/3...guered_MMO.php

Basically they tried to combat RMT activities and deflation/inflation with the new system. All they needed to do was implement the same AH feature without the price history and they would've solved their problem. Or perhaps if they actually had more active GMs to take care of RMT. It wasn't the AH that destroyed the economy in FFXI for so long, it was merely a tool used by RMT. SE let the Gilseller issue grow out of hand by taking too long to actually address it and act upon it. Which could easily be countered by being more active with disciplining and banning accounts.

They are really scared of RMT, so scared, that they made gil completely pointless and worthless in this game. There's a lot of things they're scared of(astral burns, RMT, kiting, people soloing nms by kiting) that they went to extreme measures to take GOOD things out of the game.

Mobs leash system is a good example of this, it's completely retarded and makes kiting impossible, taking away a lot of skill from playing a mage :/

[Cairdeas]

The only thing that makes an Auction house an Auction House is Blind Bidding or timed Bidding. If they implemented all of the Features of an auction house besides those it would still never be an auction house as there is no auction.

So far they've done all that. The only feature that people still really want is instant delivery so give that to them with a huge tax for doing it.

We do not need Blind or Timed Bidding. Which means we don't need an Auction house.

[Amsai]

Sorry for that Cairdeas, its a habbit to call it that. But yea I just want the convenience factor to be added to the current system. I could care less about Blind or Time Bidding, the only thing I want is convenience. I have very short amounts of time to play, and when I do I want to make the most use of my time. So anything that will help me to use my limited time more efficiently is most welcome. This game is supposed to be casual friendly. The leves , class changing, and travel times are. So why arent crafting/gathering/MW?

[Cairdeas]

Sorry for that Cairdeas, its a habbit to call it that. But yea I just want the convenience factor to be added to the current system. I could care less about Blind or Time Bidding, the only thing I want is convenience. I have very short amounts of time to play, and when I do I want to make the most use of my time. So anything that will help me to use my limited time more efficiently is most welcome. This game is supposed to be casual friendly. The leves , class changing, and travel times are. So why arent crafting/gathering/MW?

For Crafting and Gathering those are actual classes that grants you bonuses for leveling them so They take the same effort as leveling a combat class.

[Wolfie]

There is nothing that Market Wards does well now, that it couldn't do better, easier and faster with only a window interface and no NPCs. The base design of "NPCs selling stuff for you" is bad.

[Chezen]

There is nothing that Market Wards does well now, that it couldn't do better, easier and faster with only a window interface and no NPCs. The base design of "NPCs selling stuff for you" is bad.

There's nothing this game does that couldn't be done easier and faster with a window interface and no avatars. But it's not as fun. The base design of "NPCs selling stuff for you" is enjoyable.


It's all in the perception.

[Wolfie]

There's nothing this game does that couldn't be done easier and faster with a window interface and no avatars. But it's not as fun. The base design of "NPCs selling stuff for you" is enjoyable.


It's all in the perception.

Good reply. I noticed you studied up on strawman arguments and you're a pro refuting other people with them.