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    Say no to Cross-world group finders

    Ok, on another thread regarding the implimentation of dungeons, a Dev commented on things which are yet to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    We discussed all of the latest opinions with Yoshida. While it won’t make it in time for the implementation of the raid dungeons that the development team is working on currently, we’re planning on implementing enhanced LFG (looking for group) and automated party creation features.

    Also, while it won't be an easy task, we are also checking into the discussions for a cross-World instant party creation system.

    Please continue to leave feedback so that your time and experiences while tackling dungeon-related content in the future can be enjoyable!
    Now, I for one am excited about dungeons being added, maybe even something to the description of a raid to.

    howver I cannot put into reasonable (and polite) words how much of a bad idea I (and others) consider the cross-world group finder is. I shall save you a wall of text and bullet point, in short, why this is not popular amongst many players.

    1) It destroys communities: With the mix and match cross world system, it will destroy the union between players from their own world. It will be like 5k players playing their own solo games

    2) gives oportunity for ninja's:

    With less responsability for player reputations, you can and will come across people who see this as an invitation to take advantage of the situation and rob the party of everything they worked for.
    However, this does have a flip side and gives some players the chance to shout "ninja" every time they do not get their own way, regardless of what may occour.

    3) player conduct: Again, with less responsabilities for player reputations. Cross-world groups makes people think they have a right to pretty much treat everyone else like dirt. No amount of racist, homophobic, sexist or otherwise derogitory name calling (often having the F word seperate every other word) has gone unheard when this feature has been implimented in other games.

    4) It has been tried, and has failed:

    In other games, this feature is VERY unpopular, and has often made players leave said MMO's. I will not give the names, but i am pretty sure we each have our own examples of this. So, if it has failed and is unpopular in other games (often for reason above) why is it going to be implimented here?

    (if i have missed any other reason, please state it and i shall add it to the list )

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    Now, I'm sure there are players who do wish to see this implimented. With that in mind, consider this as an invite to show your side of the discussion. No doubt there are some points I have not considered, you may be able to swing a few votes with a well constructed response

    For those of you who think like myself, why don't we use this chance to see if we can perhaps give SE an alternative. Lets stew some ideas together and come up with something mind-blowing, it blows cross-world groups out the skies

    Kimiko x
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    Signed x4040604070700744047004704707404747904747890478904004789048904789074890478904789047890478904789080947. I do NOT WANT CROSS SERVER! NO! NO! NO! Ruins communities! Ruins games! Makes it not feel like a MMO!

    This also scares me, it makes it feel like we're getting western style dungeons, sigh. -_-

    Just give us a real party LFG system like FF11 had, but improved. Like, let us search for parties on jobs we aren't currently on and on multiples jobs at once and stuff.
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    If they do it without breaking the social aspect of the game then go for it SE. /Signed just in case they can't
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    What is it? Just the ability to invite someone across the world from you? Like /sea all "Lower Jeuno" and you're in Bastok? Like from XI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    What is it? Just the ability to invite someone across the world from you? Like /sea all "Lower Jeuno" and you're in Bastok? Like from XI?
    I hope so. Doesn't look like it though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    What is it? Just the ability to invite someone across the world from you? Like /sea all "Lower Jeuno" and you're in Bastok? Like from XI?
    No, it's a system which lets you invite people from other worlds (servers). EG: someone from Besaid entering a dungeon with someone from Wutai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    What is it? Just the ability to invite someone across the world from you? Like /sea all "Lower Jeuno" and you're in Bastok? Like from XI?
    Its more like you walk into an instanced dungeons and it automatically groups you with other people from across all servers doing that dungeon. You run through the dungeon and finish it and most likely never see those people ever again cuz they're on a different server altogether. I hate this idea. I'm all for automated groups for instances but keep them within the community or each server separately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    I hope so. Doesn't look like it though
    Actually this is coming too I'd imagine because the mod mentioned "looking for group" system akin to FFXI.
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    Agreed. Keep it all inside the server. I want to group with people I see all the time. I guess I could if they did implement the system but then again no one would want to take the time to form anything with me if they can have it all in seconds.
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    But I talks to people from other servers on Lodestone, I would mind grouping with them. D: It could be cool, or it could suck. I don't see why anyone would ninja lot, cause if they do it once, hopefully people would be smart enough to post it somewhere so everyone can see. That way if they joined the leader can remove them or something.

    But more bad things could happen, but I don't know I thinking playing with other people could be cool.
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