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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straiya View Post
    Totally different scenario and reason why they didn't have an afk timer. Whether any of us thinks this game needs it or not is pretty immaterial at this point, since they are adding it soon (next week hopefully). I for one think it's a great thing, but I guess we all have to get used to it.
    You are right it is a totally different scenario, FFXIV 2.0 came out almost 12 years later and should be able to handle as many afk people that it wants.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkhamNative View Post
    Either way could technically be viewed as 'botting' by SE and there are penalties for that.
    I don't believe it can be viewed this way. People fall asleep playing MMO's all the time, I'm sure if you're actively running, or your camera is moving.. it technically is an input. I could see if it was something created so I can craft or fish while I was afk, but moving a control stick? In one motion for a lengthly period of time? Nah, I don't think they'd warrant that as botting unless they implemented some type of system that randomly checked for something like that.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivalda_Kreissieg View Post
    I don't believe it can be viewed this way. People fall asleep playing MMO's all the time, I'm sure if you're actively running, or your camera is moving.. it technically is an input. I could see if it was something created so I can craft or fish while I was afk, but moving a control stick? In one motion for a lengthly period of time? Nah, I don't think they'd warrant that as botting unless they implemented some type of system that randomly checked for something like that.
    This is what SE says:

    2.1 Cheatingand Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats,bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software orhardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may nottake advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

    You're right, I dont think a macro to move you or cast something every so often to bypass an AFK timer would be against the ToS.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseus View Post
    You are right it is a totally different scenario, FFXIV 2.0 came out almost 12 years later and should be able to handle as many afk people that it wants.
    FFXI had a bazaar system where you had to stay logged in to be able to sell stuff. FFXIV doesn't have that.
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  5. #55
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    Who knows? Maybe the AFK timer will be on by default but optional.

    I think its lame and unecessary. I like to login in the morning, play throughout the day, then logout at night. Anything that disrupts that is a waste of my time.

    Just add it to the list of things people QQ over when they come from other MMOs and FFXIV doesn't have it. Already took bazaars away, why not slap an AFK timer on too and call it Final Wowtasy Wars.

    I understand FFXIV wouldn't be a major player and success without watering it down and catering to a more diverse audience. But I don't have to like it >.>;;;
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holyhunter View Post
    FFXI had a bazaar system where you had to stay logged in to be able to sell stuff. FFXIV doesn't have that.
    not the point

    the point is that an AFK thingy is not necessary as FFXI is proof that afking doesn't mean ppl cant log in - all FFXIV needs to do is do what FFXI does to ensure ppl can log in whenever and stay logged in if they want to and then no AFK thingy is needed
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  7. #57
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    This all sounds really good. I personally have not had any issues with logging on now...just the dreading perform 5 actions and none of them animate and then it all just goes seemingly at once...really bad lag.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagito View Post
    Woa, they're adding all this next week? That's pretty quick if you think about it. I mean, we just got the upgrade yesterday




    Even though this is true, people mainly afk because of the login problems, I have seen way less afkers with the new upgrade. Now there is no real reason to afk, sure you can stay afk 1-2 hrs while doing something, but it won't be a 24/7 afk like last week lol.
    Finn was AFK all day every day.


    Reinheart translation: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1199473
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  9. #59
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    Can somebody tell me if he talks about when character xfer services will be available (other then what is said on mog station which is mid sept) will these be available then too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassano View Post
    Can somebody tell me if he talks about when character xfer services will be available (other then what is said on mog station which is mid sept) will these be available then too?
    ④キャラクターワールド移転サービスの開始
    その上で既存混雑ワールドにキャラクターを作成した皆様、もしくはログイン制限やキャラクター作成制限により、希望のワールドにキャラクターが作成できなかった皆様に対し、ワールド移転サービスを提供することで、安定したログインが可能な新規ワールドへの移転や、お友達との合流などを可能にさせていただく予定です。
    4) Beginning world transfer service
    We are planning to provide a world transfer service so players can transfer to a world with more stable login, as well as allowing them to group together with their friends. This is for all those players who could not create characters on the worlds they wished to play in and for those players who created characters on already congested worlds due to the login/character restrictions that were in place.
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