Leve links: antisocial design

[Shiyo]

Que up at a crystal. When 7 others que a group is formed, ready checked and the group leader is allowed to pick any leve for that camp that is not completed by him. The team finishes and all members are asked if they would like to do another. if members drop the group waits in que for more to join. can be done 8 times a reset for super sp and additionally for regular sp.

Now their is a system in place too reward off hour/casual players full sp for their leves. Also it allows hardcore players the advantage of constant play to help out friends or grind until they pass out.

win win or stupid idea?

No this is really anti-social and is basically spoon-feeding people. It's almost as bad as cross-server grouping, but not really since at least you can make friends ^-^. You shouldn't have to automatically group people for people to figure out how to party together :/ What has this world come to?

Just give us FF11's LFG system with improvements(able to search on multiple jobs and stuff).

[Commat]

No this is really anti-social and is basically spoon-feeding people. It's almost as bad as cross-server grouping, but not really since at least you can make friends ^-^. You shouldn't have to automatically group people for people to figure out how to party together :/ What has this world come to?

Just give us FF11's LFG system with improvements(able to search on multiple jobs and stuff).

Listen man, your bright, articulate and always give great feedback. I am not trying to suggest changes to hurt the community. I am just working with what we have.

Which is millions of potential players that expect systems throughout the game world to help them experience content.I really don't want to fight with you because i personally agree with a lot of what you say. I just don't understand how it will help the game grow to tell fans of the genre to suck it up and play a game that will never be viewed by non-players as hardcore but rather as archaic and clunky.

Even the best LFG tool just wont cut it. A que system gives the expectation of success, LFG leaves people with uncertainty. Even if it doesn't make sense that's how it works in practice.

You are all or nothing when it comes to this game which is commendable but not helpful when dealing with concerns many people have.

[Shiyo]

Listen man, your bright, articulate and always give great feedback. I am not trying to suggest changes to hurt the community. I am just working with what we have.

Which is millions of potential players that expect systems throughout the game world to help them experience content.I really don't want to fight with you because i personally agree with a lot of what you say. I just don't understand how it will help the game grow to tell fans of the genre to suck it up and play a game that will never be viewed by non-players as hardcore but rather as archaic and clunky.

Even the best LFG tool just wont cut it. A que system gives the expectation of success, LFG leaves people with uncertainty. Even if it doesn't make sense that's how it works in practice.

You are all or nothing when it comes to this game which is commendable but not helpful when dealing with concerns many people have.

I'm a girl
I'm ok with adding a better LFG system, I just don't want something so easy and thoughtless as instant group makings and instant queues. At least let people have to communicate a bit and be at their PCS/PS3's when they want to join or make a party. I agree this games LFG system is horrible, but FF11's worked, so let's expand on that. Let's not make an automated thing please, that makes the game feel blah. All we need is a proper LFG system that isn't automated and requires human interaction.

Ty for the nice comments! ^-^ I didn't know I was actually helpful o_o

I don't understand why the best LFG tool won't work? It worked fine in FF11. Rift doesn't even have a LFG system, it simply has /level50 chat and I always made parties in less than an hour with that. If people can't form parties properly with a PROPER non-queue up automated LFG tool then I've lost all hope in humanity.

Edit: The main reason I don't want an automated queue system is because when I make parties(Or when I did in FF11, when player skill/class/gear actually mattered lol ;_; ) I would talk to the people before inviting them, making sure they'd be able to fill their role and do what I intended for them to do by inviting them, or I'd invite people I knew did a really good job from earlier parties with me.

[Majidah]

I'm a girl
I'm ok with adding a better LFG system, I just don't want something so easy and thoughtless as instant group makings and instant queues. At least let people have to communicate a bit and be at their PCS/PS3's when they want to join or make a party. I agree this games LFG system is horrible, but FF11's worked, so let's expand on that. Let's not make an automated thing please, that makes the game feel blah. All we need is a proper LFG system that isn't automated and requires human interaction.

Ty for the nice comments! ^-^ I didn't know I was actually helpful o_o

I don't understand why the best LFG tool won't work? It worked fine in FF11. Rift doesn't even have a LFG system, it simply has /level50 chat and I always made parties in less than an hour with that. If people can't form parties properly with a PROPER non-queue up automated LFG tool then I've lost all hope in humanity.

Edit: The main reason I don't want an automated queue system is because when I make parties(Or when I did in FF11, when player skill/class/gear actually mattered lol ;_; ) I would talk to the people before inviting them, making sure they'd be able to fill their role and do what I intended for them to do by inviting them, or I'd invite people I knew did a really good job from earlier parties with me.

Not to get too off topic here, but I don't know whats wrong with an automatic system to form parties. In phantasy star online you'd join random rooms if I recall properly. It'd list their objective in the room description and so so you'd know what was that room about. Then you could make friends and invite them when making a room too, but anyone could join (unless you locked the room with a password).

Point is that the hassle of recruiting shouldn't be 'the social experience'. The dungeons themselves should. And on that note, xiv needs dungeons. Narrow corridors with mobs you can't just outrun. Something like XI's citadel.