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  1. #21
    Player
    raelee's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Fireheart
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Yeah, I definitely agree with this. I highly dislike the healing LB.

    Even though they are considered "hybrid" to some here, the support only really seems to come one a need basis. Since songs give -20% damage, most people (or at least the ones in my FC) only use songs when they are needed. I wouldn't really consider that a "hybrid." I am almost always bard on anything and there are many instances I run where I don't need to play a single song. So far, things like Primals are really the only things that has need Ballad. Paeon, I have never used, and we don't have many BLMs to take for Requiem...the only thing I regularly use in the Job list is Rain of Death.

    It kind of sucks because we want to take all bards sometimes but we always have to bring a MNK or DRG for the limit break xD
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  2. #22
    Player
    Duelle's Avatar
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    Character
    Duelle Urelle
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    DPS Role should bring DPS Limit Break

    Bards are a DAMAGE class that brings BUFFS, we are not heal bots ffs.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again:

    I have a feeling ARC/BRD's LB will be changed when Musketeer gets introduced. There'll be a need for a physical ranged limit break. I'd suggest it being Eagle Eye Shot.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  3. #23
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    ForteXX's Avatar
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    Character
    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Bzzt! WRONG! Bard is a support-DPS hybrid. Bard is NOT a pure DPS job. Want to play as DPS? Stay archer. Classes don't magically disappear just because you unlock their jobs.

    Look through your bard action list. There's what...one DPS ability? That one DPS ability doesn't make you a DPS job anymore than White Mage's one damage ability Holy makes them a DPS job.

    However, I do think that they should probably change it to something besides healing, something more supporty. Maybe some kind of 10 second buff for party, debuff for all nearby enemies?
    Even Archer has heal as its Limit Break.
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  4. #24
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    Kroktar's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kroktar Thalius
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Bard LB1 and LB2 its almost useless :/

    Also running late dungeons with 2 DPS bards its so fucking awesome

    We need a "Real" Hybrid Support Limit break not this easy fix copy paste joke.
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  5. #25
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    Jayded's Avatar
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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 80
    People saying bard = support = LOL. Then why do bards outdps all other dps? Right, cause it's a DPS class. If they want to make bard a real support class, they have a looooong way to go; like adding some support for starters. MP/TP song does not a support class make.
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  6. #26
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    Rekujen's Avatar
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    Rekuja Azalon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Has Yoshi been questioned regarding this topic? I would love to hear his reasoning behind it...
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  7. #27
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    グリダニア
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    Character
    Evangela Monterossa
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    I'd rather have a Ranger/Hunter as a branched job for archers.
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  8. #28
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    Character
    Faeldi Chantelune
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujen View Post
    DPS Role should bring DPS Limit Break

    Bards are a DAMAGE class that brings BUFFS, we are not heal bots ffs.
    Level to 50 and do so some hard mode before whining.

    I have save my group a few times already on ifrit hm from a failed stun. Healers do not have time to cast LB. Only bard can do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    This really becomes a problem when you end up with 2 Bards in a duty finder group, leaving your group with no dmg Limit Break. It happened to me twice today.
    I have done 4-man dungeons with 2 bard, you don't need LB at all. In facts, I have cleared dungeons faster with 2 bard.
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  9. #29
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    Character
    Glacial Whisperwind
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    BLMs out dps bards. I have done it and I have seen it happen. Bards can also out dps BLMs sometimes, but they are not the top dps class.

    Top dps class right now is DRG/BLM
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  10. #30
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    Lorenzo's Avatar
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    Character
    Maximus Decimus
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Add a new LB for BRD that give % more dmg to all group for a set amount of time like 20-30 sec.
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