Online Bullying - A Dev request for a response and discussion

[Dorkula]

It's not just the UK: http://www.change.org/petitions/rele...cebook-comment

That's sickening. This whole idea of "your rights end where my feelings begin" is ignorant and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.

[KiriA500]

That's sickening. This whole idea of "your rights end where my feelings begin" is ignorant and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.

That thing you're doing right now? Yeah, it sucks, huh?

[Aegis]

I hadn't played a game with cross-server DF before. When it was first announced, the 1.0 boards were split between "This'll make getting parties easier" and "DF ruins the community of every game".

Personally, I've had good experiences with it. Quick parties (when I switch to healer) and okay players (though not generally very talkative). The only time I've seen some friction was when the LNC and the WAR both took different paths in Blayfox (the WAR didn't appear to know the location of some coffers) and the War said we should be following him. When it was pointed out he was skipping chests he replied he knew where he was going.

We all just /shrugged, we were here for storyline completion anyway.

As such, I'm witholding judgment on whether Cross Server DF is a good or bad thing. I think single-server DF would be unquestionably a good thing, though.

Back on topic: If someone insults you, report it. If someone is trying to tell you how to do your job better, listen and honestly think about if they are right. If someone isn't performing as you expect, give them friendly advice. If that doesn't work, leave. There is no excuse for calling people names.

[Diavolo]

That's sickening. This whole idea of "your rights end where my feelings begin" is ignorant and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere.

Agreed. That kind of stuff leads to an eventual lack of rights period. It makes me worry about some of the future adults that are being fostered now with this sort of sentiment. What are they going to do when life slaps them in the face? How are they going to handle any sort of conflict? Just call the police every time?

[Dorkula]

That thing you're doing right now? Yeah, it sucks, huh?

Not the same thing, but I could see how somebody who doesn't understand the point would think that.

[kurokawa]

Ok, I'm going to leave this here for now.

I think there are some good points, some harsh ones, but overall, I'm glad I started the discussion.

For those of you that think we should all just 'deal with it', move on and let it go; well, I disagree, but that's what forums are for. No hard feelings.

To me it's a moral issue.

It's not about being a big baby, being thick skinned or needing to grow up. It's not about avoidance, poor performance or who's responsibility it is to act.

Really, it's about what's right and what's wrong.

Plain simple.

[Ruprect]

Sticks and stones. People really need to get some thicker skin. Just leave if you don't like their comments. I would have just stayed and trolled them hard for as long as I could though, just keep failing at the end and then ask if they mad. That too me would have been more fun that finishing it.

Ok, I'm going to leave this here for now.

I think there are some good points, some harsh ones, but overall, I'm glad I started the discussion.

For those of you that think we should all just 'deal with it', move on and let it go; well, I disagree, but that's what forums are for. No hard feelings.

To me it's a moral issue.

It's not about being a big baby, being thick skinned or needing to grow up. It's not about avoidance, poor performance or who's responsibility it is to act.

Really, it's about what's right and what's wrong.

Plain simple.

I agree with this, but you can't change what nerds in a video game are going to do, the problem is they are worthless IRL and use the anonymity of the internet to vent. Your best bet is just to leave them to their pathetic existence and move on, or troll the heck out of them until they are mad.

[Matthew_John]

if someone bothers u leave the duty....duh

[Matthew_John]

Ok, I'm going to leave this here for now.

I think there are some good points, some harsh ones, but overall, I'm glad I started the discussion.

For those of you that think we should all just 'deal with it', move on and let it go; well, I disagree, but that's what forums are for. No hard feelings.

To me it's a moral issue.

It's not about being a big baby, being thick skinned or needing to grow up. It's not about avoidance, poor performance or who's responsibility it is to act.

Really, it's about what's right and what's wrong.

Plain simple.

dude...maybe go be moral superman somewhere they need one? go feed the hungry or read to school children...its a video game bro if you dont like the people yer playing with then ignore them

if its about right and wrong maybe you shouldn't be wasting valuable time in front of a video game when you could be doing something to better humanity

[Aegis]

Agreed. That kind of stuff leads to an eventual lack of rights period. It makes me worry about some of the future adults that are being fostered now with this sort of sentiment. What are they going to do when life slaps them in the face? How are they going to handle any sort of conflict? Just call the police every time?

Free Speech is not a black and white subject. There are shades of grey. Societies have to draw a line somewhere. It's perfectly legal to use a racist term, that's free speech, you aren't directly harming anyone. Caling someone that term to their face is still legal. Calling them that every time you see them is verging on illegal (harassment). Following them around and calling them that is very illegal (harassment). At no stage have you physically threatened that person. But it doesn't make it any more legal.

There are similar grey areas for incitement to violence (the speaker himself has never threatened to be violent), promotion of terrorism (ditto) and criminal negligence (shouting fire in a crowded theatre is the classic example, shouting you've seen a bomb in an airport would be another).

There are no obsolute freedoms in any society. Everything is restricted, and rightly so.