Bring back the dungeon grind parties

[Phe]

FATE:
- no need to wait
- more XP
- your party can't do wrong

dungeon:
- waiting time depending on your job
- less XP
- if in a random party and your pt members don't know what to do it can be frustrating

i'd like to level in dungeon too, but atm FATE parties are better for my nerves.

[MuiMao]

I'm not gonna lie, I don't really mind grinding on fates but it gets boring after a while. I'd like to have more of an incentive to grind on dungeons, but the revenue is just not there, especially for lower levels.

[TommySmiles]

I want to know why very little to no combat, running around errands, talking to npc, picking fruit, watering gardens, traveling to this town, going here to talk to this npc, giving 10different npc items, traveling here on your chocobo, going here and talking to this npc etc, is so appealing to the masses. Literally 95% of the time spent on your chocobo, or talking to NPC's, Less than 5% spend in actual combat. How is that fun? I was so bored doing the story, I wanted to fight, I wanted to play my class, my character, kill things. The dungeons were super fun, the solo fights were nice, the ending of the story was INCREDIBLE, but the infinite errands...why SE, WHY?

Why exactly does this appeal to the masses so much? What is so fun about it?

I feel the exact same way

[Pugmalion1]

I guess you're missing a big chunk of content. You won't be able to get airship pass, retainer, grand company, chocobo and other stuffs.

Oh, I'm getting there. Finished the airship story quest at level 22. I've been wandering around the land since then collecting hunting log entries and leveling up other jobs for the cross skills. I've finished the rest of the story up to the point where I start Sastasha, and it's my next step. All I was saying is that I'm more into the open world than the dungeons and forced random co-op, and I kind of wish there were more options and/or reward for different styles of play.

[Zetonegi]

No one will be forcing you to do them, people just want choice. Not all of us have to patience to deal with 100 man mobs running to every fate and finishing them at lightning speed. It's fast but it isn't exactly fun for a lot of people. Open world activities are fine and all but the FATE system is pretty poorly implemented atm due to a lack of proper scaling depending on how many people are in it. So choices. Choices in how you can level really wouldn't hurt anyone.

No! You can only do 1 thing for xp ever!!! But seriously, there will always be people who think that if you buff the xp gains something give that FATEs will suddenly stop giving any xp whatsoever. I thought FATEs weren't that bad... then I went to Coerthas and I realized its basically everyone between 36 and 50 all trying to do the same FATE at the same time yet its still better xp than everything else.

[Nikki]

No one will be forcing you to do them, people just want choice. Not all of us have to patience to deal with 100 man mobs running to every fate and finishing them at lightning speed. It's fast but it isn't exactly fun for a lot of people. Open world activities are fine and all but the FATE system is pretty poorly implemented atm due to a lack of proper scaling depending on how many people are in it. So choices. Choices in how you can level really wouldn't hurt anyone.

And you don't have a choice right now? OP is asking to nerf XP on FATE and increase the dungeon grind. Ignoring the fact that FATE is an open world activity and is preferred by people because it has no downtime when it comes to forming a party together. Anyone can join in and contribute.

Not everyone has a ready group for dungeon grind. Where as FATES are instant thus preferred by majority. Its ironic that you are telling me about choices when it is OP asking for nerfing the XP. Why not keep XP same on both activities and let players decide?

[Peppita]

I don't mind dungeons giving more xp, as a dps I despise the 2 hour queue times unless you have a tank. But leave the FATEs alone

[Tari-F]

And you don't have a choice right now? OP is asking to nerf XP on FATE and increase the dungeon grind.

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I'm not saying SE should nerf FATEs (though it wouldn't bother me if they did). Instead, maybe the exp could be pumped up a bit? Or at least bring them more in line with one another.

I'm pretty sure he's only asking for a buff to dungeons, which sounds reasonable to me. If dungeons become more in-line with FATEs in terms of rewards, it wouldn't affect players who simply want to go do FATEs at all.

[Nikki]

I'm pretty sure he's only asking for a buff to dungeons, which sounds reasonable to me. If dungeons become more in-line with FATEs in terms of rewards, it wouldn't affect players who simply want to go do FATEs at all.

He edited that part later on so i missed that however his original post came off as he wants FATES to be nerfed in order to entice people into grinding dungeons.