Bring back the dungeon grind parties

[VisionHolder]

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not having as much fun leveling as I did in beta. FATEs, though they offer a ton of fast exp, get very old and frustrating, especially in crowded zones. The company credits are nice, but it all gets very old... FAST! I like doing FATEs when I'm out-and-about and just happen to run into one my level with a modest group helping out, but not when there are so many people you can't target or hit the mob before it dies.

Dungeons on the other hand taught people skills... which people won't be learning now, thanks to FATE parties. Also, you had a chance for nice gear in dungeons. But finding people for dungeons unless you're a healer (or sometimes tank) is challenging.

I'm not saying SE should nerf FATEs (though it wouldn't bother me if they did). Instead, maybe the exp could be pumped up a bit? Or at least bring them more in line with one another.

[Austin]

you mean EXP grind parties...?

[VisionHolder]

you mean EXP grind parties...?

Yes. In beta, people would exp grind on the dungeons. They give decent exp... but nothing compared to FATEs.

[VisionHolder]

Does no one really care about this? Putting the aspect of fun aside--which will vary from person to person--I'd think that people would be a little worried about new players not learning their job/class because they quickly got to 50 just running around in a zone casting a couple spells or spamming AoE.

[Zoot]

Does no one really care about this? Putting the aspect of fun aside--which will vary from person to person--I'd think that people would be a little worried about new players not learning their job/class because they quickly got to 50 just running around in a zone casting a couple spells or spamming AoE.

FATE XP needs to be nerfed and Dungeon XP needs to be Buffed so they're on par in terms of potential XP/Hour.

I like FATES as well but not the Murder Balls of 30 or more players running around burning them in 10 seconds. Especially with Magi and their stupid Blizzard spam.

[Crica]

Does no one really care about this? Putting the aspect of fun aside--which will vary from person to person--I'd think that people would be a little worried about new players not learning their job/class because they quickly got to 50 just running around in a zone casting a couple spells or spamming AoE.

why do you think you cant learn how to play a lvl 50 class at lvl 50?

im a legacy player and when i logged on to my lvl 50 WHM, all the spells had been reworked and i learned to play it all over again AT LVL 50...

[VisionHolder]

why do you think you cant learn how to play a lvl 50 class at lvl 50?

im a legacy player and when i logged on to my lvl 50 WHM, all the spells had been reworked and i learned to play it all over again AT LVL 50...

It's not that people can't learn their job at 50. It's that many people go out and use that new level 50 job--not farming random mobs in the open world--but in instanced dungeons or important fights that affect other players. Level 50 (at this point) is both an important milestone for personal achievement, and also a tool to access "endgame" and all the related activities that require considerable skill. It seems like everyone's in a rush for everything in this game, and I don't see most people stopping to learn their job between popping 50 and heading to their first relic farming fight.

[Crica]

It's not that people can't learn their job at 50. It's that many people go out and use that new level 50 job--not farming random mobs in the open world--but in instanced dungeons or important fights that affect other players. Level 50 (at this point) is both an important milestone for personal achievement, and also a tool to access "endgame" and all the related activities that require considerable skill. It seems like everyone's in a rush for everything in this game, and I don't see most people stopping to learn their job between popping 50 and heading to their first relic farming fight.

if they "stopped to learn their job" on solo mobs instead of join YOUR dungeon pts to learn their jobs, then YOU would have to wait on them to learn their jobs

how about instead of WAITING on them to SOLO you instead HELP them learn their jobs when they "pop in YOUR dungeons" to learn their jobs?

thats how i re-learned whm - i ran dungeons to learn how to HEAL PPL again at LVL 50...

and EVERYONE i ran them with had NO ISSUES helping me learn to play at LVL 50

[Elldur]

I would not only boost dungeon xp, but also hand out bonus xp when you run a dungeon with people from your server, and some other reward for running level50 dungeons with people from your own server. This would greatly improve the community on every server, while not taking away anything from anybody.

I also agree that FATEs need to be changed so that they encourage social behaviour (like chatting) more. Even after such a change they should not give out more xp than running a dungeon.

[Lum]

The instances are boring and the queue times suck for dps. Yea i think i'd rather have an open world experience when i level.